Posted on 12/04/2006 10:19:04 AM PST by IntelliQuark
The President is still the most powerful man in the country and by far. On domestic issues he has the power to veto any bill that is not approved by more than 2/3 of the votes and in each house of Congress. On war and foreign policy he has almost total control. Although the Congress has some power in foreign policy like the approval of an ambassador to the UN, it is still a very little power. I do not think that an ambassador to the UN can personally have any significant effect on our foreign policy since at the end he get his or her orders for the Secretary of State who in turn gets his or her orders from the President. I am disappointed that Bolton will no longer be UN ambassador, but this is not the disaster that some knee jerk conservatives are trying to make of it, in fact it is a very insignificant event in the big picture.
GW's holding no cards. He's got the crap hand of all crap hands right now. Going to the mat would just mean he loses Bolton and makes a fool of himself in the process. This is POLITICS, not statesmanship. Know the difference.
It just might be facing up to reality. "We" couldn't get Bolton in when "we" had the Senate, so forget it now...
So much for the "regime" rumors...
< /eye-rolling>
Your response is to grudgingly admit that the Congress has some power over the Bolton appointment, and then to discount the significance of the loss of Bolton.
The truth is that the Congress has just demonstrated decisive power over the UN nomination, as evidenced by Bolton's departure. That's not a debatable point. The Congress beat the President. End of story.
As for the significance of Bolton, I didn't comment on that and don't have a comment on it. My basic point is that it's silly to complain about a poker player folding his hand when he was holding junk. And politically, GWB is holding junk.
He has whatever power the office provides, which as you point out, is substantial, but like every president, he's hamstrung by the world's greatest rube goldberg machine ever invented, the United States Congress.
In a way I think we're arguing the same bottom line from different perspectives, which is that it's pointless to blame the president here and now for this. I don't see him having any good options.
The enemy within is doing it's best to destroy this country.
Ditto!
The threat of filibuster by the Dhimmicrats who have the majority now (Elections do have consequences) is the reason. GWB is portrayed as a 'stuborn' fool by the 'enemies'. Should we just let them pile on?
i don't consider it making a fool of yourself to stand up for principle or a man of principle.dammit, don't we even stand for that? is everything a political game? that's the Democrats' game, not ours.
I'd love a link to that, if you can find it again.
The enemy within is doing it's best to destroy this country.
No kidding. And that's damn depressing, too.
Exactly.
That said, he had enough clout to get us into the war in Iraq. He had enough clout to hold together a war coalition thru 2004. But now he's a lame duck who's party just lost an election, and so he's got to suck it up even more than usual.
In short, I don't think it was a total mirage, but it was never as good as it might have seemed.
In Washington DC? Of course it is. And most other places also. Again, there's no point in going over a cliff with all flags flying. Generals recognize, unfortunatly, sometimes you have to retreat. Sometimes you have to hold your fire. That's life. GW understands that. He has to figure out what he thinks his top priorities are, and what he might be able to accomplish, and the rest goes over the side.
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OK then we agree on the heart of the issue here, that the President is not to be blamed for the Bolton loss but still many on our side are blaming him for the loss.
LOL!! Perhaps a late night visit from a few Secret Service agents?
Durn it...we should have thought of this before!
Lest anybody think otherwise...off, damned sarcasm!
That would be sweet.
Definitely yes.
Is it your position that he tried his best?
Definitely no.
My applause as well.
I can't believe that I've scrolled through more than 50 replies and not seen the pertinent question of this issue.
I mean, both of the sides in this issue have points to make, but all of this bickering is partly what got America into a liberal Congressional swamp and I don't care to give up now.
My question is, what now? - Who is going to be vetted?
Bump.
Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do.
Or do they?
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