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The lawyers are trying to make it illegal to have a war. Plus nice guys finish last in war.
1 posted on 11/26/2006 6:54:32 PM PST by WestNJersey
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To: WestNJersey
This author speaks the truth that many Westerners simply don't want to hear.
2 posted on 11/26/2006 7:00:16 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: WestNJersey
This is politically correct war. The enemy only has contempt for your servility. War is to kill people and break things. A concept enlightened liberals will never understand.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 11/26/2006 7:02:17 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: WestNJersey

BTTT


4 posted on 11/26/2006 7:05:27 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("Lord, I believe. Help my unbelief.")
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To: WestNJersey
I agree with everything in this story except one thing.

The Israelis should announce they are going to bomb a house. Let all of the human shields collect around it. Then bomb it in such a way they kill every single one of them.

When you go fishing, you use bait.

They are not the innocent bystanders. Each and every one of them would pick up a rifle and kill a Jew or an infidel. Many of them would gladly be suicide bombers. Any one of them would plant a bomb under the road to destroy our troops.

This is not the same thing as blowing up an entire town. These are the bad guys.
5 posted on 11/26/2006 7:05:35 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: WestNJersey
America lost the Vietnam War because it refused to do what was necessary to win -- a political decision that cost unnecessary lives on both sides, and achieved nothing. Is that the future of Iraq? It seems so

Hearts and minds
"There's a considerable sentiment of those who really studied Vietnam and, ideally, served there, that the approach to the war after Westmoreland left was on a new track," said retired Army Col. Stuart Herrington, another Vietnam veteran who has advised the Pentagon on Iraq policy. "It was a radical change in the approach to the war, and there's no question that even [former North Vietnamese] adversaries now admit that the second approach was extremely, extremely damaging to them."

Much like in Vietnam, the new strategy is being pushed after several years of large-scale combat operations that may have killed thousands of insurgents, but also alienated the local population.

Perhaps more troubling is that like the Abrams' initiatives, which ran from 1968 through 1973, the current move to step up training of the Iraqi forces comes at a time domestic support for war is on the wane and political winds are blowing in favor of a quick pullout of combat forces.

"There are certain things you just can't do in a military situation like Iraq or Vietnam, and if you violate these tenets, you're at great risk," said Herrington. "One of them is to take too long to figure out what you ought to be doing so the American public falters in its support."

6 posted on 11/26/2006 7:07:07 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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Toronto Sun published this? There is still hope for Canada.

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7 posted on 11/26/2006 7:08:05 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 29-34)
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9 posted on 11/26/2006 7:18:29 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: WestNJersey

Isn't this the author of Clash of Civilizations? Worthington is correct, but not politically so. His voice will go unnoticed and we commit suicide rather than give offense.

I pity my grandchildren for the world we are passing down.


10 posted on 11/26/2006 7:23:58 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: WestNJersey
I was giving a seminar on using the space program to encourage students to study math and science. I opened the seminar with a 12 minute film clip from the beginning of "2001 A Space Odyssey". My point? The first tool was a bone which helped to feed the tribe and win the water hole! I.E. WAR!

When the triumphant hominid wins the water hole he heaves the bone into the air and it is transformed into a space satellite.

A million years of tool making from bone implement to spaceflight suggests where our energies should be focused. I believe in O'Neills Frontier thesis and believe that this is where Bush would focus our efforts!

12 posted on 11/26/2006 7:24:58 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: WestNJersey

War cannot easily be waged peacefully. Restraints often mean prolonging the war and increasing its casualties.

Bingo. It also makes it very likely that you will lose outright.


16 posted on 11/26/2006 8:30:10 PM PST by rbg81 (1)
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To: WestNJersey

And when Israelis retaliate with deadly force against a missile strike casually "aimed" into a residential/commercial non-military "target," the MSM dutifully gives us detailed reports on the non-combatant children and women killed by Israeli attackers.


19 posted on 11/26/2006 9:44:47 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: WestNJersey
When the Americans had (or thought they had) insurgents in Iraq, mostly confined in Fallujah, a hotbed of enemy activity, rather than obliterate it (as they would have done in WWII) they gave a week's warning for civilians to depart before they attacked...When the assault eventually went in, the bad guys were mostly gone -- dispersed to other areas to continue their slaughter of the innocent.

Though I agree with the thrust of this article, what I've quoted above is crap. We held off on Fallujah because commanders on the scene felt it would work to our advantage, and there were plenty of Jihadis in there when the Marines arrived.

22 posted on 11/26/2006 10:16:29 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Welcome Freepers! Pull up a groove and get fabulous!)
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To: WestNJersey

This article is depressing, primarily because it is absolutely correct. Both Israel and America have lost the will to wage war. What will it take for us to become serious nations again?


23 posted on 11/26/2006 10:22:21 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: WestNJersey
The other day, after a rocket attack, Israel announced it was attacking the home of a suspected terrorist leader where explosives were stored. It gave the occupants 30 minutes warning to evacuate before war planes obliterated the house. So what did the residents do? Well, not only did they not evacuate, but neighbours formed a human shield at the targeted house and, guess what?

The author is quite right. When I heard the above story on TV the other day I couldn't believe it. Everyone who surrounded that house showed themselves to be the enemy. Their actions define them as terrorists. I think the same is true when thousands come out into the streets to celebrate some suicide bombers death. They show themselves to unequivocally be the enemy. Legitimate targets all.

24 posted on 11/26/2006 10:30:19 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters on endlessly. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: WestNJersey

i keep thinkin Cheney's gonna order a hit on iran(and scare the sh*t outta n. korea) in the 2 yr. window remaining for the admin..


27 posted on 11/26/2006 11:50:00 PM PST by 1234 (WHO is Responsible for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS?)
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To: WestNJersey
The Righteous Scriptures show us how to fight a war: you kill all the men, all the women, all the children and all the cattle. It works, you do not have that enemy coming back at you in any form. Yes, I agree we should fight a war with the goal of complete victory. To read a good article on Islime, go to:
yourarmstoisrael.org
select "a must read"
pull up "Article 29/"The Final End Time Beast"
Print and save for future reference.
30 posted on 11/27/2006 4:21:50 AM PST by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: WestNJersey
It's the perverted worship of "the other" (always arbitrarily defined) that forms the core of Western leftist (as opposed to non-Western leftist) ideology. "We" are presumed guilty of historic crimes against "them" and their quaint culture (which can never be evaluated by Western standards).

Why don't we just commit suicide? It would be quicker.

34 posted on 11/27/2006 6:35:54 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayachalom vehinneh sullam mutzav 'artzah, vero'sho maggi`a hashamaymah)
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To: WestNJersey

BUMP!!!


40 posted on 11/27/2006 9:26:43 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: WestNJersey
The Israel war planes were called off. So now, every time the Israelis give the 30-minute warning which, apparently, is policy, the "human shields" of women and children head for the targeted house, secure in the knowledge that the Israelis won't attack.

Right, just as most mosques are a weapons depot with spires.

53 posted on 11/27/2006 4:21:29 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (Unite)
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Killing me softly...


63 posted on 11/28/2006 2:11:18 AM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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