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Spinning black hole pushes the speed limit
HARVARD-SMITHSONIAN CENTER FOR ASTROPHYSICS NEWS RELEASE via Spaceflight Now ^
| November 20, 2006
| HARVARD-SMITHSONIAN CENTER FOR ASTROPHYSICS
Posted on 11/24/2006 8:35:25 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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![](http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0611/20blackhole/blackhole.jpg)
This illustration shows a swirling disk of accreting gas orbiting a fast-spinning black hole, with the bulk of the X-rays pouring out of the inner, white-shaded region of the disk. Credit: David A. Aguilar (CfA)
![](http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0611/20blackhole/blackholes.jpg)
This illustration shows a swirling disk of accreting gas orbiting a black hole, with the bulk of the X-rays pouring out of the inner, white-shaded region of the disk. For the non-spinning black hole shown at left, this inner radius is large, which leaves a big dark hole cut out of the center of the hot disk of gas. Credit: NASA/CXC/M.Weiss
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I noted that the illustrations show that they spin clockwise.
Is there a point in the universe that gives a division such as a "equator" where those on the other end spin counter clockwise?
To: Deaf Smith
It looks CW when viewed from the 'top.' Viewed from the 'bottom' they rotate CCW.
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posted on
11/24/2006 8:53:15 AM PST
by
gcruse
(http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
To: gcruse
Ah yes, the China Syndrome
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Original photo before the photoshp.
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posted on
11/24/2006 9:00:24 AM PST
by
OSHA
(I am become OSHA, destroyer of beers.)
To: Deaf Smith
Darn interesting question, that.
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posted on
11/24/2006 9:01:10 AM PST
by
patton
(Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
To: patton
If we're going to try to latter send space craft across the universe via worm holes, gotta know which way the toilet's gonna flush.
To: Deaf Smith
YOU try it, I will wait for further evidence. LOL.
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posted on
11/24/2006 9:12:54 AM PST
by
patton
(Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
To: OSHA
We need a picture with Tourist Guy in it.
To: Deaf Smith
Uhh, look at it from the other side?
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posted on
11/24/2006 9:44:47 AM PST
by
dangerdoc
(dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
Call me ignorant or stupid, but all of this is still theoretical.
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posted on
11/24/2006 9:52:26 AM PST
by
wastedyears
("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
To: Deaf Smith
Is there a point in the universe that gives a division such as a "equator" where those on the other end spin counter clockwise? No. Rotation in the visible universe, the Hubble sphere. has been measured and is as close to zero overall as it might matter. Goedel spent considerable time measuring galactic rotation and found no net rotation in the pre-Hubble visible universe which forced him to eliminate one of his universe models.
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posted on
11/24/2006 9:58:58 AM PST
by
RightWhale
(RTRA DLQS GSCW)
To: wastedyears
all of this is still theoretical And now, still.
New Theory: all of this will always be theoretical, so don't wait up.
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posted on
11/24/2006 10:01:00 AM PST
by
RightWhale
(RTRA DLQS GSCW)
To: gcruse
"Viewed from the 'bottom' they rotate CCW."
This implies that you have perhaps crawled under a black hole at some time? Just asking....
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posted on
11/24/2006 10:06:54 AM PST
by
gb63
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The mistake they make is believing Einstein is the LAST WORD on gravity waves. Gravity waves don't travel at C, they are flux-linking MATTER WAVES that travel by the formula U = c^2/v DeBroglie's equation for the speed of a matter wavecrest. If you care to go LOOK, the earth's response to the sun's gravitational pull is NOT 8 minutes c-retarded, it is instantaneous : 149,000,000 km/9 x 10^16 km/sec = about a billionth of a second. Thus "gravity" is fermions bose-bonded/flux-linked by matter waves in a capacitance well, much like cooper pair electrons in superconductivity.
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posted on
11/24/2006 10:11:28 AM PST
by
timer
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
And just outside of the black hole is an impossible planet, which strangely enough, has a blue British police box call on it.
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posted on
11/24/2006 10:59:07 AM PST
by
Tanniker Smith
(I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
To: wastedyears
It's not just theoretical, it's impossible.
X-rays are electromagnetic. Gravity is neither electro nor magnetic. Gravity can't make X-rays.
To make a black hole you need to squeeze an electron into a proton. Gravity is attractive. All the gravity in a proton won't attract an electron into it. Not enough energy. All the gravity in any number of protons won't attract the same number of electrons into themselves. Still not enough energy. The black hole is a mathematical invention, not a physical fact.
Astronomy is based entirely on looking at stuff, that is, no direct measurements are possible. Astronomers might think they see a black hole, but they are seeing faces in clouds.
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posted on
11/24/2006 11:27:41 AM PST
by
SmartAZ
To: SunkenCiv; KevinDavis
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posted on
11/24/2006 11:47:25 AM PST
by
annie laurie
(All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost)
To: SmartAZ
So you're saying there are no black holes, therefore we don't have to worry about one coming along in a billion years and gobbling us up. Whew. That's a relief....
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posted on
11/24/2006 12:03:47 PM PST
by
gb63
To: timer
If you care to go LOOK, the earth's response to the sun's gravitational pull is NOT 8 minutes c-retarded, it is instantaneous : 149,000,000 km/9 x 10^16 km/sec = about a billionth of a second. So it takes a second if you are a billion miles away? Then the walkie talkie on the space ship would only be usable to a certain distance.
I read somewhere that manipulating the protons of a divided atom causes instantaneous reations at any distance.
Projective Capitalism at it's best.
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posted on
11/24/2006 12:19:17 PM PST
by
bondserv
(God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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