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To: GMMAC
Equality of opportunity is not true conservatism. You could plausibly consider it to be neoconservatism, but that doctrine isn't much different than old-school liberalism. The Edmund Burke-types see man determined by climate, religion, law, history, customs, manners, and mentality. They emphasized authenticity, which isn't much different than pomos today advocating "difference" for the sake of difference.

Equality of opportunity is a liberal idea. The problem is what passes for liberalism today in both conservative and "liberal" circles in the United States is actually socialism. And socialism has always been a reaction against Reason and the Enlightmentment; it isn't an accident that the welfare state was born in Bismarck's Germany in what would be called a "right-wing" dictatorship in today's parlance.
16 posted on 11/23/2006 3:29:55 PM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: JHBowden
I was with you right up until you made the jump from today's conservatism being classical 19th century liberalism to it being socialism.

From there, it seems you see feminism as conservative because you perceive both as socialism ???

To me, this is abstract thinking bordering upon sophistry and likely fair indication you've spent a wee bit too much time in the ivory towers of academia.

Your argument appears to overlook the respective practices of conservatism and feminism where the latter willingly embraces totalitarianism (social fascism) & the former does not and, in fact, rejects it.
17 posted on 11/23/2006 4:19:36 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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