Deplore it as much as you like. The only countries that really seem to want the EU are Germany and France, anyway, neither of which are allies that I would choose.
The words "No brainer" spring to mind.
Love, Ivan
Ping!
Don't you mean, an "Axis"?
Why does the Lady think the US would WANT Europe as the 51st state? Not a chance unless it is the only way to keep it out of the Caliphate.
Nor does it appear in doubt as to which side the English people would chose if asked. One side tried repeatedly to conquer it and the other assisted Great Britain in the repulsion of that would-be conquest.
The French have consistently tried to turn Europe into something that is automatically and always in opposition to the US. There is no logical reason why this must be so. This is just the same sort of arrogance that Chirac displayed by telling Eastern Europeans that they were not "well brought up" because they were insufficiently anti-American for French tastes.
Yes, they will turn both into complete and utter socialists countries with no return to freedom. Germany has tried this socialism thing once before, kinda back in the 1930s and 1940s I believe, I as my memory recalls, that did not turn out too well for them. Their little experiment into socialism cost the world about 50 million dead in WWII I believe. Sure, both of you try it, since you both are soon going to be come Mozlum nations anyway. By 2015-2020 both will probably have Mozlum leaders in government.
Let Royal ruin France, then see her watch in horror when National Front takes power.
If Sarkozy does not win, that appears to be the path France is heading to. They are courting cataclysm.
No, they don't have to choose. She is not the boss of anything.
"do we want to be vassals of the United States, do we want to be a 51st state?"
Or, Brits, wouldn't you prefer to be vassals of France and Germany, do you want to be part of the 4th Reich? :p
I can't put my finger exactly on the moment when France decided that it was more fun to define itself as reflexively anti-US, but they're being nuts. The opinion seems to be that Islamism would be cuddly and cute if only they could ally with Islamists against the US.
"But we cannot have a Europe where one part goes to war in Iraq, another part does not, and we all end up paying the bill."
Why don't they just say it right out. "We must join with Sauron." :D
Whether you do or don't doesn't matter, in a few decades it will be moot. You have more important questions to ask yourself.
"The only countries that really seem to want the EU are Germany and France . . ."
Germany was Britain's primary ally in the 18th and 19th Century. France was its primary ally in the first 20th century. Now its primary ally is the United States.
Seems like a better deal than allying with two losers.
Britain can hitch it's wagon to the rising United States of the sinking EU. If they throw in their lot with us, they will be independent, free, and rich. If they cast their lot with the Europeans, they will be ensnared in the European bureaucracy, regulated to death, and poor.
This should be a no-brainer, but for some reason it's not.
Once goods are on a ship, it does not cost that much more to transport them 3000 miles than 30. The Chunnel gives the Froggies a slight structural advantage, but it does not carry enough goods to overcome the fact that they are on the express elevator and going down.
Why would Great Britain want to sign on to that?
Was anyone else wondering which member of the royal family would have dared make a comment like this? My money was on Princess Michael.
Thanks for posting. Outstanding FReeper comments BUMP!
This little girl cant me much of a study of history. Other than WW1 and WW2 (where the US and Britain were allies) I would be hard pressed to find a political climate were Britain naturally sided with France.
Remember, if you draw a line in the sand, someone may actually step over it.
do we want to be a 51st state?"
How arrogant of her to even think we'd ever allow that.
The question should be: Should Great Britain join Europes decline or hedge her bets with the United States and the rest of the non-Islamic west.
Britons need to obey.