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Fear not, smart women
Washington Times ^ | 11/16/06 | Shelley Widhalm

Posted on 11/16/2006 7:07:33 AM PST by qam1

Those who say that men don't like women with brains and careers are misleading women, says New York columnist Christine B. Whelan, author of "Why Smart Men Marry Smart Women," published this year.

Ms. Whelan, 29, says she wrote the book, in part, to respond to New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd's claim in her 2005 book "Are Men Necessary?" that success decreases a woman's chance for marriage.

"This isn't good news," Ms. Whelan said about reading the book when she was single and had just finished her doctoral degree in economic and social history. "The social scientist in me knew better than to accept this conventional wisdom without doing research of my own."

Ms. Whelan researched U.S. Census Bureau data, commissioned a national opinion survey and conducted interviews with more than 100 high-achieving men and women in nine cities to gather material for her book. What she found was that high-achieving women -- women with graduate degrees and/or an income in the top 10 percent of women in their age group -- married at the same rate as all other women did, but later in life, and that outdated information and misinterpreted statistics had women believing otherwise.

She calls these women SWANS, or Strong Women Achievers, No Spouse

The statistics Ms. Whelan provides in her book show that American women marry by an average age of 30 if they have a graduate degree, the median age for all women to marry is 25, and 90 percent of women marry by 44.

"Ms. Dowd is painting the wrong picture for our generation," Ms. Whelan said, adding that Ms. Dowd was right in saying that prior to the 1980s, it was more difficult for smart, successful women to get married and have children............

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: genx; maureendowd; whelan
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To: meowmeow
The problem is women who confuse "smart" with "educated." No amount of education will make a bitter moonbat smart.

Ditto that!! - and it applies to men and women.

41 posted on 11/16/2006 8:28:06 AM PST by momfirst
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To: qam1

I don't mind strong, career minded women at all, provided that they are not spoiled, obnoxious, self-absorbed, selfish, materialistic control freaks as my experience has led me to believe many of them are.


42 posted on 11/16/2006 8:29:17 AM PST by RatRipper
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To: RatRipper
"I don't mind strong, career minded women at all, provided that they are not spoiled, obnoxious, self-absorbed, selfish, materialistic control freaks as my experience has led me to believe many of them are."

Sounds like the ones you met need to grown up or see a therapist.

43 posted on 11/16/2006 8:32:14 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Paloma_55

I think you meant "complementary." (This is where my ex-DH would've told me to "dummy up.")


44 posted on 11/16/2006 8:36:42 AM PST by Rte66
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To: qam1

All I know is that being married to a smart woman has been good for my health, my finances, and my love life.


45 posted on 11/16/2006 8:43:19 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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To: qam1

I love smart women. I just don't like self-centered overly ambitious ones who leave heel marks in piles of bodies (and kids in day care) on their way to the top.


46 posted on 11/16/2006 8:45:10 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: qam1

Probably why slick Willie chose Monica instead of Hillary, he prefers smart women


47 posted on 11/16/2006 8:46:32 AM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: Rte66
"I think you meant "complementary." (This is where my ex-DH would've told me to "dummy up.")"

I never could find my magical intelligence turn off valve either. I guess I spent too much time reading, writing, researching, building computers and various other "non-intelligent" activities to find it.

48 posted on 11/16/2006 8:48:41 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Rte66

Dummy up!

:)


49 posted on 11/16/2006 8:50:34 AM PST by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Graymatter
I don't know about now, but back when I was redhotmatter, if a man even suspected a girl of intelligence, she needed a new vette and a set of D's to get his attention.

Unless he doesn't know one way or the other on first sight. I remember as a teenage girl I would want to go check out the cute guys. One acquaintance said I should be looking for someone who had a good personality and was intelligent. I never went up to a guy and thought, he's the ugliest thing alive, but he might have a great personality, so I'll go after him.

My husband noticed my -- uh --assets first, then found out about the intelligence after we talked.

50 posted on 11/16/2006 8:53:19 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Old_Mil
"I love smart women. I just don't like self-centered overly ambitious ones who leave heel marks in piles of bodies (and kids in day care) on their way to the top."

That's not a smart woman....that's a she-devil. LOL.

51 posted on 11/16/2006 8:53:33 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: NOLA_homebrewer
I'd liek to see one describe the difference between "strong and independent" and "self centered, and uncompromising"

Many men are selfish and try their best to take advantage of women who aren't strong, independent, and uncompromising.

52 posted on 11/16/2006 9:03:13 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: Earthdweller

Indeed...but the question is often asked by over degreed women in their mid to late 30s who have done precisely this and now blame men for the consequences of their choices.


53 posted on 11/16/2006 9:03:47 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: brownsfan
Is English so imprecise and limited that you can't express your thoughts in English?

Heh - that was my first reaction too.
54 posted on 11/16/2006 9:07:17 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: KC_Conspirator

I don't know about most women, but I prefer smart men.

55 posted on 11/16/2006 9:07:47 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: JennysCool
The problem is, many women just don't know the difference between strength and bitchery.

Yep, and when a guy finds a girl that knows the difference.... snap her up.

56 posted on 11/16/2006 9:12:14 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: pax_et_bonum

If Benjamin Netanyahu had taken a different direction in life, he could have been Israel's answer to John Rhys-Davies.

His voice is just magnificent.

(And he's just way good-lookin'.)


57 posted on 11/16/2006 9:12:19 AM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I hear ya! You sound very smart and sensible to me!


58 posted on 11/16/2006 9:13:17 AM PST by derllak
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To: Old_Mil
Any woman who blames a man for the consequences of her own choices is a retread from the fifties. There are just too many roads to travel now.
59 posted on 11/16/2006 9:13:53 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

Attitude has been a huge problem with women I have met, and that is not confined to professional women. I'll be 50 tomorrow, and am a banker with something to offer a lady. Good women with some social skills and a little class are hard to find.


60 posted on 11/16/2006 9:15:04 AM PST by RatRipper
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