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To: farmer18th
You sound like a nice person, Sunsong, but this is pure drivel. A Christian pastor inviting a radical pro-abort, pro-gay, anti-biblical Christian imposter up there to the pulpit deserves to be shamed and belittled.

I am a nice person :-)

And I'm sure you are a sincere person. However, we do not agree here. I read this thread and the level of condemnation was appalling. You say that some people *deserve* to be shamed and belittled. I disagree. Those are decisions for God to make. No one is shamed and belittled and humiliated into being a good and decent person. All that shaming and belittling does is cause more suffering and bring the shamers and belittlers down to the level of what they condemn. I repeat: you are no better than what you condemn if you stoop to the level of consciously harming.

If that is all that you can think of to do when you disapprove of someone's actions - perhaps consider not doing anything. I don't see any reason why people on this thread couldn't have been gracious and say that they don't agree with Rick Warren's doctrine but that they are glad that he is helping people with AIDS and those in Rwanda - or whatever else they see as good.

I applaud the good works that Rick Warren does. I am grateful that he has been a part of the allieviation of suffering. I don't see why you need to condemn or belitle him in order to communicate with people here that you think they are better off in a smaller congregation. I don't agree with you that it desirable or spiritual to be punitive and mean.

408 posted on 11/19/2006 11:31:42 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
I applaud the good works that Rick Warren does.

Giving a pulpit to a pro-abort gives credibility to an abominable act--the killing of children. Real Christians should have nothing to do with this apostate.
410 posted on 11/19/2006 11:52:32 PM PST by farmer18th
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