[MadIvan]

In this instance, symbols and media play matter more than actual statistics.

Regards, Ivan

[proud_yank]

In this instance, symbols and media play matter more than actual statistics

That is very unfortunate, and I think that pulling out of Iraq prematurely will be a terrible mistake.

I tend to be optimistic, based on previous votes in both the house and senate (where they overwhelmingly voted against a time-table for withdrawal), I don't think we'll be leaving early. Again, trying to be an optimist!