[cookcounty]

"I propose we force freedom on these maniacs so that the people they live with and break bread with are too busy making money and inventing things and trading with US to have the time to bother with killing you."

You can't FORCE freedom on someone."

That's a nice bumper sticker, and perhaps there's some level of validity to it, but we forced freedom on Japan, ...and Germany, ...and Italy.

[EnochPowellWasRight]

"That's a nice bumper sticker, and perhaps there's some level of validity to it, but we forced freedom on Japan, ...and Germany, ...and Italy."

We did that only after utterly defeating them and crushing their religion/ideology. We didn't do that in Iraq. That level of destruction wouldn't be "nice" and Islam is a "religion of peace".

We didn't FORCE freedom on them after that. They were ready for it.