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To: Unknown Pundit
It diminishes the moral credibility of the church, as they are no longer counselors to the world...

Are you really trying to pretend your concern is over the credibility of the church and the influence of conservative Christianity? Instead, your sentence sounds a lot like something the extremely liberal Barry Lynn would say.

Suggestion for the 25 Y.O. pot heads. Don't break the law and you won't get into trouble.

No longer counselors for the world? Were they counselors for the world in the past? Did we have more or less laws against moral vice in the past or are there less laws against vice now?

Show me a country where the moral laws do not exist, but the influence of conservative Christianity is stronger than ours was when we had more laws against moral vice like we had in the past.

48 posted on 11/10/2006 12:14:00 PM PST by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: Old Landmarks
In other words, it's swell with you to have injustice built into the law, got it. You want Chrisians oppressing sinners, fine.

Riddle me this, oh wise one, and tell me why this isn't injustice in the law. It's a hypothetical I posted earlier.

The two units of a duplex apt. are both rented by single men, 25 YO, with simialar jobs and income. The man in UNIT A gets drunk everynight of the week. The man in UNIT B gets high on pot everynight of the week. Their behaviors are morally equal, seeking intoxication, yes? But as we both know, the law won't bother the man in UNIT A, but the law can punish the man in UNIT B. So we have the same moral behavior (intoxication) being treated differently before the law (alcohol vs. pot). Unequal treatment before the law for the same moral behaviors is the very definition of injustice. To split the hairs like you do is to support injustice. The fact that you can't see the obvious inconsistencies in the law doesn't mean they aren't there. I assure the 25 YO pot smoker does, and he knows where the injustice comes from.

Are you really trying to pretend your concern is over the credibility of the church and the influence of conservative Christianity?

Whether you believe it or not, yes. My father, Christian, deacon, SS teacher, should be a natural GOP voter because of the SocCon's in the GOP, but he's not. In fact, he finds it difficult to vote for GOP because of the SocCon's. He is afraid that Christian's using their religion to claim moral authority in the gutter world of partisan politics ill serves the Christian witness of ministering to the flock and winning lost souls. Some of the those lost souls might include 25 YO pot smokers. He thinks it's not such a good idea for Christians to put themselves in the position to be seen as the jailers of sinners. I'm sure you will differ.

49 posted on 11/10/2006 12:53:38 PM PST by Unknown Pundit (I really do post with a paper bag over my head.)
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