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Bush Has Achieved America's Demise (Paul Craig Roberts barf alert!)
NewsMax.com ^ | October 18, 2006 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 11/06/2006 8:19:49 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot

When does "collateral damage" so dwarf combatant deaths that war becomes genocide?

Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq has cost 655,000 Iraqis their lives. That is the conclusion of a study financed by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Center for International Studies and conducted by physicians under the direction of Johns Hopkins University epidemiologists.

These are deaths over and above the pre-invasion mortality rate. Bush's illegal invasion raised Iraq's mortality rate from 5.5 deaths per 1,000 people per year to 13.3 deaths per 1,000 people per year. The study is published by the distinguished British medical journal The Lancet and is available on the journal's online site.

The study uses a scientific method(hilarious!) known as "cluster sampling." In 87 percent of the deaths, the researchers requested death certificates, and more than 90 percent of the surveyed households produced the death certificates.

Violence accounted for 601,000 deaths, and disease and destruction of civilian infrastructure accounted for 54,000 deaths. The violent deaths are attributed to gunshot wounds, coalition air strikes and car bombs.

Johns Hopkins University epidemiologist Gilbert Burnham says, "We're very confident with the results." Columbia University epidemiologist Ronald Waldman says the survey method used is "tried and true" and that "this is the best estimate of mortality we have."

When asked about the report, President Bush stated, "I don't consider it a credible report." Bush, of course, is not reality-based, and he knows that any unfavorable news is "enemy propaganda." That's what the neocons who pull his strings tell him, and that is what he believes.

What percentage of these 655,000 deaths were insurgents or "terrorists" (Love the scare quotes)? Probably 1 percent and no more than 2 percent. Bush's "war on terror" is, in fact, a war on Iraqi civilians.

Bush's invasion has also spawned sectarian conflict or civil war, although the Bush regime denies it. Even Bush is smart enough to know that "bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq" is not compatible with setting off a civil war in Iraq. Since Bush, the faith-based, believes that he is bringing "freedom and democracy to Iraq," he cannot accept the fact that he has started a civil war.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians are not the only innocent victims of Bush's illegal aggression. The Oct. 11 New York Times reports that Department of Veterans Affairs documents show that about one in five U.S. soldiers who have served in Iraq or Afghanistan have suffered at least partial disability.

To date more than 100,000 U.S. troops who are veterans of these wars have been granted disability compensation. Although the United States cannot put on the ground in Iraq more than 150,000 troops at one time, 1.5 million troops have served so far and 567,000 have been discharged, of which 100,000 are receiving disability payments.

Paul Sullivan, director of programs for Veterans for America, says that the current rate of injuries will produce 400,000 American veterans suffering 30 percent to 100 percent disability. Apparently, one of the severe forms of disability is post-traumatic stress, which does not count as a physical wound.

What is America's reward for Bush's illegal wars that have killed 655,000 Iraqis and an uncounted number of Afghanis, and disabled as many as 400,000 U.S. troops?

According to the U.S. National Intelligence Estimate and to practically every Middle East expert, Bush's invasions have radicalized the Muslim Middle East, created legions of recruits for extremists, undermined America's puppet rulers, imperiled Israel and destroyed America's reputation.

We are talking about over 1 million casualties that have no other cause than blatant lies by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, the bloodthirsty neoconservative cabal that occupies Bush's sub-Cabinet and their corporate media propagandists, especially The Weekly Standard, Fox News, National Review, CNN and The Wall Street Journal editorial page.

The Bush regime deceived America and the world with its lies that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction that would be turned against the West by terrorists. By giving speeches that continually mentioned Iraq in the same context as 9-11, the Bush regime created the widespread impression, still prevalent among Americans, that Iraq was responsible for 9-11.

What kind of government would destroy the lives through death or disability of over 1 million people for no valid reason?

The same kind of government that fires its own lawyers for doing their constitutional duty. Navy lawyer Lt. Cmdr. Charles Swift was assigned the task of bringing Salim Hamdan to a guilty plea before the unconstitutional military tribunal that President Bush created for Guantanamo detainees. Instead, Swift did his duty and defended his client, winning in the U.S. Supreme Court.

The Bush administration retaliated by blocking Swift's promotion, which killed his military career and sent the chilling message to all U.S. military and government attorneys that constitutional scruples are career-enders in the Bush regime. Anyone who stands for the U.S. Constitution is against Bush and his neocon regime.

The Bush regime is proceeding exactly as the Nazi regime proceeded. First, eliminate every person of conscience and integrity from the government. Second, redefine duty as service to the leader: "You are with us or against us" - a formulation that leaves no place for duty to the U.S. Constitution. Patriotism is redefined from loyalty to country and Constitution to loyalty to the government's leader.

Americans are too inattentive and distracted to be aware of the grave danger that the neoconservative Bush regime presents to American liberty and to world stability. The neoconservative drive to achieve hegemony over the American people and the entire world is similar to Hitler's drive for hegemony.

Hitler used racial superiority to justify Germany's right to ride roughshod over other peoples and the right of the Nazi elite to rule over the German people. Neoconservatives use "American exceptionalism" and "the war on terror." There is no practical difference. Hitler cared no more about the peoples he mowed down in his drive for supremacy than the neoconservatives care about 655,000 dead Iraqis, 100,000 disabled American soldiers and 2,747 dead ones.

When Bush, the Decider, claims unconstitutional powers and uses "signing statements" to negate U.S. law whenever he feels the rule of law is in the way of his leadership, he is remarkably similar to Hitler, the Fuhrer, who told the Reichstag on Feb. 20, 1938: "A man who feels it his duty at such an hour to assume the leadership of his people is not responsible to the laws of parliamentary usage or to a particular democratic conception, but solely to the mission placed upon him. And anyone who interferes with this mission is an enemy of the people."

"You are with us or against us."

COPYRIGHT 2006 CREATORS SYNDICATE INC


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
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The Bush regime deceived America and the world with its lies that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction

I thought the New York Times said Saddam had blueprints to build a nuke?

Bush=Hitler, thanks Paul.

1 posted on 11/06/2006 8:19:50 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I don't feel demised. Does anybody else feel demised? I actually feel pretty un-demised.


"I'm not dead yet!"


2 posted on 11/06/2006 8:22:48 AM PST by Thrusher (“There’s nothing like the B-2 when it comes to giving peace a chance.")
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To: COEXERJ145; Mase; 1rudeboy; expat_panama
Where are the guys in the white coats with the butterfly nets to take this clown away already?
3 posted on 11/06/2006 8:23:37 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts. You know who you are.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

If we leave Iraq it could cost a huge number of lives. We made that mistake in Vietnam. We are a moral and great people. We cannot leave Iraq until we have reached our goals. The Democrats want us to cut and run. They could care less about the human costs no matter how much they act like they do. The Democrats are ghoulish.


4 posted on 11/06/2006 8:23:40 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Smile.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What a flaming idiot. This is the mind of the modern liberal for you: America is wrecked but Europe and it's 1% economic growth and double digit unemployment are nirvana. Well considering our nation's economy is booming with full employment and 7% income growth AFTER inflation in the 1st half of 2006, then please Mr. Bush keep bringing on America's demise if this is what a demise looks like.

And what kind of idiot is still foaming on about the "Bush lied" crap?? Only a true mental midget would still be beating that dead horse.


5 posted on 11/06/2006 8:24:59 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
This idiot copmpares Bush to Hitler...never for a moment contemplating that the very fact that he is able to freely write such garbage proves his rediculous assertion totally wrong.
6 posted on 11/06/2006 8:25:00 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be)
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To: isthisnickcool

I don't feel demised. In fact I'm not demised. And if anyone says that I am demised, they will be demised.


7 posted on 11/06/2006 8:25:59 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Thrusher
Maybe we could add MIT to the toll ~ hmmm ~ bet they'd like that ~ actually be AMONG the carnage.

In any case, folks who use "cluster sampling" are certainly already among the brain dead.

8 posted on 11/06/2006 8:26:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Toddsterpatriot

9 posted on 11/06/2006 8:27:07 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Paul Craig Roberts and Pat Buchanan are redundant. Maybe they should just issue joint press releases so there is less copy to read.


10 posted on 11/06/2006 8:27:29 AM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What all these types of articles fail to state about the number of Iraqis deaths is that WE are not the one's killing them, the Islamofacists are.


11 posted on 11/06/2006 8:28:12 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: MikeA
What a flaming idiot. This is the mind of the modern liberal for you...

PCR isn't a liberal moonbat. He is a right wing moonbat.

Sadly the Right has assclowns on our side too and he is one of them.

12 posted on 11/06/2006 8:28:42 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

This guys is a moron who is using a discredited study to make a standard liberal talking point.


13 posted on 11/06/2006 8:28:49 AM PST by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Gosh, this is just awful. I had no idea Bush was so bad. Well, that decides it. I'm voting straight Democrat on Wednesday.


14 posted on 11/06/2006 8:29:17 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: dogbyte12

Paul Craig Roberts and Pat Buchanan are embittered buffoons.


15 posted on 11/06/2006 8:31:06 AM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

And here's a complete debunking of this flaming moron's 655,000 Iraqi civilian death claim. Only a total simp. and zombified dunderhead would just blindly accept such a claim of civilian casualties at that level, a level of civilian casualties only reached in Germany and Japan during WW2 after years of carpet bombing of their cities, and nothing even remotely comparable has occured in Iraq in terms of large scale warfare:

655,000 War Dead?
By STEVEN E. MOORE
October 18, 2006; Page A20

After doing survey research in Iraq for nearly two years, I was surprised to read that a study by a group from Johns Hopkins University claims that 655,000 Iraqis have died as a result of the war. Don't get me wrong, there have been far too many deaths in Iraq by anyone's measure; some of them have been friends of mine. But the Johns Hopkins tally is wildly at odds with any numbers I have seen in that country. Survey results frequently have a margin of error of plus or minus 3% or 5% -- not 1200%.

The group -- associated with the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health -- employed cluster sampling for in-person interviews, which is the methodology that I and most researchers use in developing countries. Here, in the U.S., opinion surveys often use telephone polls, selecting individuals at random. But for a country lacking in telephone penetration, door-to-door interviews are required: Neighborhoods are selected at random, and then individuals are selected at random in "clusters" within each neighborhood for door-to-door interviews. Without cluster sampling, the expense and time associated with travel would make in-person interviewing virtually impossible.


However, the key to the validity of cluster sampling is to use enough cluster points. In their 2006 report, "Mortality after the 2003 invasion of Iraq: a cross-sectional sample survey," the Johns Hopkins team says it used 47 cluster points for their sample of 1,849 interviews. This is astonishing: I wouldn't survey a junior high school, no less an entire country, using only 47 cluster points.

Neither would anyone else. For its 2004 survey of Iraq, the United Nations Development Program (UNDP) used 2,200 cluster points of 10 interviews each for a total sample of 21,688. True, interviews are expensive and not everyone has the U.N.'s bank account. However, even for a similarly sized sample, that is an extraordinarily small number of cluster points. A 2005 survey conducted by ABC News, Time magazine, the BBC, NHK and Der Spiegel used 135 cluster points with a sample size of 1,711 -- almost three times that of the Johns Hopkins team for 93% of the sample size.

What happens when you don't use enough cluster points in a survey? You get crazy results when compared to a known quantity, or a survey with more cluster points. There was a perfect example of this two years ago. The UNDP's survey, in April and May 2004, estimated between 18,000 and 29,000 Iraqi civilian deaths due to the war. This survey was conducted four months prior to another, earlier study by the Johns Hopkins team, which used 33 cluster points and estimated between 69,000 and 155,000 civilian deaths -- four to five times as high as the UNDP survey, which used 66 times the cluster points.

The 2004 survey by the Johns Hopkins group was itself methodologically suspect -- and the one they just published even more so.

Curious about the kind of people who would have the chutzpah to claim to a national audience that this kind of research was methodologically sound, I contacted Johns Hopkins University and was referred to Les Roberts, one of the primary authors of the study. Dr. Roberts defended his 47 cluster points, saying that this was standard. I'm not sure whose standards these are.

Appendix A of the Johns Hopkins survey, for example, cites several other studies of mortality in war zones, and uses the citations to validate the group's use of cluster sampling. One study is by the International Rescue Committee in the Democratic Republic of Congo, which used 750 cluster points. Harvard's School of Public Health, in a 1992 survey of Iraq, used 271 cluster points. Another study in Kosovo cites the use of 50 cluster points, but this was for a population of just 1.6 million, compared to Iraq's 27 million.

When I pointed out these numbers to Dr. Roberts, he said that the appendices were written by a student and should be ignored. Which led me to wonder what other sections of the survey should be ignored.

With so few cluster points, it is highly unlikely the Johns Hopkins survey is representative of the population in Iraq. However, there is a definitive method of establishing if it is. Recording the gender, age, education and other demographic characteristics of the respondents allows a researcher to compare his survey results to a known demographic instrument, such as a census.

Dr. Roberts said that his team's surveyors did not ask demographic questions. I was so surprised to hear this that I emailed him later in the day to ask a second time if his team asked demographic questions and compared the results to the 1997 Iraqi census. Dr. Roberts replied that he had not even looked at the Iraqi census.

And so, while the gender and the age of the deceased were recorded in the 2006 Johns Hopkins study, nobody, according to Dr. Roberts, recorded demographic information for the living survey respondents. This would be the first survey I have looked at in my 15 years of looking that did not ask demographic questions of its respondents. But don't take my word for it -- try using Google to find a survey that does not ask demographic questions.

Without demographic information to assure a representative sample, there is no way anyone can prove -- or disprove -- that the Johns Hopkins estimate of Iraqi civilian deaths is accurate.

Public-policy decisions based on this survey will impact millions of Iraqis and hundreds of thousands of Americans. It's important that voters and policy makers have accurate information. When the question matters this much, it is worth taking the time to get the answer right.

Mr. Moore, a political consultant with Gorton Moore International, trained Iraqi researchers for the International Republican Institute from 2003 to 2004 and conducted survey research for the Coalition Forces from 2005 to 2006.


16 posted on 11/06/2006 8:32:16 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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I've got to admit, PCR is absolutely the most entertaining read on the web today.

I suspect the guy takes himself and his views with the utmost seriousness and that makes his Onion like scibbles that more hilarious.

17 posted on 11/06/2006 8:32:39 AM PST by zarf
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To: Toddsterpatriot
LOL, more moonbat defense of Saddam and Sons.

Amazing how they have twisted the blowing up of civilians in the marketplace as a "win" for the Islamic Cults, and sickening how moonbats rationalize those murders as somehow natural.

Much like they have done to the Palestinians over the decades.
18 posted on 11/06/2006 8:33:08 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: COEXERJ145

See, I consider guys like Buchanan and this fool to be liberals. Very little of what they espouse to me appears to be conservative. Certainly protectionism and isolationism is not conservative to my way of thinking, nor is a policy of surrender and undermining the moral of our troops in the war on terror. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...it's a duck.


19 posted on 11/06/2006 8:34:03 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Presumably he'll next accuse President Bush of polluting his precious bodily fluids.

Regards, Ivan

20 posted on 11/06/2006 8:35:10 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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