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Seattle's Troubled (public) Toilets
KOMO TV (Seattle) ^ | 11/2/06 | Liz Rocca

Posted on 11/03/2006 10:59:51 AM PST by llevrok

SEATTLE - It's broad daylight in the Seattle International District's Hing Hay Park. We're about to confront two men. We believe they're using one of Seattle's expensive, high-tech toilets as a crack house.

Earlier, our undercover camera caught one of them loading his crack pipe. And we watched a woman hand the other man a package. Then, the men disappeared inside the toilet.

When the doors open, I confront both men and ask them why they went inside the toilet together.

"Were you doing drugs?" I ask. They deny it but one of the men blows crack smoke in my face.

"Is that crack smoke coming out of your mouth?" I ask. "No," the man says "that's a cigarette."

Despite the man's denials I know it's crack smoke. My law enforcement sources tell me crack has a distinct, chemical odor. And, that's exactly what I smell. (Watch the video using the link above)

Unfortunately, these men are not alone.

"This is the kind of activity we see all the time," says Richard Chang. Chang owns a restaurant in the International District and says the Hing Hay toilet is nothing but trouble.

For weeks, our undercover cameras captured drug deal after drug deal in Hing Hay Park.

And people gathering inside the toilet, so many sometimes, it's hard for the doors to close.

We saw women duck inside, followed by men carrying cash. And, it happened again and again and again.

Park regulars who can't get in simply urinate outside.

"No tourist is going to go in there with that kind of scenario," says Chang, "because it's not clean."

Seattle City Attorney Tom Carr agrees. "I would never go in there," he said. "Because it does not look like a safe place that I'd like to be."

We showed Carr the results of our investigation. "From a public safety perspective, I'd like to seem them gone," he said.

Expensive Problem

Just two years ago, some city council members celebrated when the toilets hit the streets.

They were certain the five high-tech toilets, scattered from Pioneer Square to Capitol Hill, would serve everyone from tourists to the homeless.

But the toilets came with a hefty price tag: more than $650,000 a year.

And a ten-year contract put taxpayers on the hook for more than $6.5 million.

"That place is, it's like meth central here, crack central, meth central, heroin central," said Randy Lewis, who owns a business across the street from the toilet on Capitol Hill.

Lewis says he saw problems almost from the start.

And outside the Pioneer Square toilet, our cameras caught drug deals.

Sandy Krause works for Seattle Public Utilities and runs the toilet program. "We're constantly looking at ways to make it better, to improve the service, to make it better, to make it safer," she said.

We showed her our undercover video. "I'm very concerned," she said. "I don't want that to go on".

Still Waiting

After we showed city officials what we found, they met and briefed Mayor Greg Nickels.

That was three months ago.

Richard Chang is says he's still waiting for results. "Because someone needs to take some action," he said. "We should shut it down. We should not be paying for this"

The countless drug deals we captured on camera didn't come as a big surprise to those in the area.

"Is there a drug problem in this park?" I ask one man. "Yeah," he says.

Seattle City Tom Carr wishes someone would pull the plug on the toilets.

But who will solve the problem?

Two years ago, the city council overturned then Mayor Paul Schell's veto and put the toilets on the street. Today, only three of those council members who voted for the toilets remain.

When the toilets debuted, Councilwoman Jan Drago was ecstatic. Now, she won't talk to us.

Neither will Richard Conlin, even though he chairs the committee that is in charge of the toilets.

Councilman Nick Licata was the only one of the three willing to look at what our investigation uncovered. "Well, this was not my vision" he said while watching our video.

"As long as we have them, we've got to try and keep them safe" said Mayor Greg Nickels.

Changes Coming

After we started investigating last summer, staffers briefed Mayor Nickels on what we found. What we caught on tape has now triggered change.

The city will install a surveillance camera outside at least one toilet. They're still deciding which one. And there will be new lighting for all of them.

Trespassing citations will be issued to those who loiter outside the toilets or violate the one person inside-at-a-time rule.

And the Mayor has taken the extraordinary step of asking the city council to reconsider the entire program.

"I hope that they will reconsider the wisdom of having these toilets in our city" says Nickels.

Can Councilman Nick Licata justify the continued expense of the toilets?

"I don't think we can justify keeping those toilets in those particular locations," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: liberals
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From the Land of Hopeless Idealists

1 posted on 11/03/2006 10:59:51 AM PST by llevrok
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To: BADROTOFINGER
WA state ping... And a safety advisory for all Seattle-ites.
2 posted on 11/03/2006 11:03:19 AM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: llevrok

What is it today? There's a good urinal/toilet thread at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1731614/posts?page=96#96


3 posted on 11/03/2006 11:05:00 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: llevrok
An excuse to put up more cameras. They probably drool at the surveillance in Great Britain. Get rid of the toilets if they're a problem.
4 posted on 11/03/2006 11:05:12 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: llevrok
Despite the man's denials I know it's crack smoke. My law enforcement sources tell me crack has a distinct, chemical odor. And, that's exactly what I smell.

The jokes just write themselves...

5 posted on 11/03/2006 11:05:51 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 66-68)
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To: llevrok
So, the Liberal answer is simple! We just tax all the businesses in the area $1000 a day to pay for the additional cops we have to hire to police and keep clean the wonderful futuristic toilets that were supposed to solve this kind of problem in the first place by giving the mentally ill drug dealing homeless someplace safe and warm to spend the winter. Of course, we won't let the cops arrest anyone doing dope or hooking in the toilets, but we may need to save money by making the cops pick up the "protection money" as we call it, from the local business people. It's only fair, really, because if they would just move away from the toilets and out to the suburbs, there would be nobody endangered by the poor, oppressed, underprivileged, probably minority homeless that we set out to help!
6 posted on 11/03/2006 11:07:06 AM PST by 50sDad (The GOP dumped Foley, the Dems kept Clinton. See the difference?)
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To: llevrok

What's the big deal? I usually wait until I go into the bathroom before I take the crack out of my pants, too.


7 posted on 11/03/2006 11:07:37 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: llevrok

Sounds like the wolves got the sheep right where they want'em.


8 posted on 11/03/2006 11:07:40 AM PST by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: llevrok

650000 a year for 5 toilets.

No wonder they tax us to death.

No one better talk to me about how much the war is costing.


9 posted on 11/03/2006 11:08:04 AM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: sionnsar; Just Lori; IslandJeff

WA ping


10 posted on 11/03/2006 11:08:14 AM PST by llevrok (How can you plant the seed of freedom by pulling out early?)
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To: llevrok
I worked in Seattle 15 years ago as a plumber. Thanks to the infamous liberal "needle exchange program" I was stuck by hypodermic needles several times while working on jobs for many a downtown business. Not only in toilets but in stairwells, dark hallways etc. Never got anything but I count my blessings.
11 posted on 11/03/2006 11:12:03 AM PST by badpacifist (I want you, I need you. But there ain't no way I'm ever gonna love you. So don't be sad.)
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To: llevrok

Unintended circumstances form the lanes to the road to hell.


12 posted on 11/03/2006 11:12:15 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: llevrok

so liberal logic concludes that if you get rid of the toilets the drug problem will disappear.


13 posted on 11/03/2006 11:17:47 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: llevrok

14 posted on 11/03/2006 11:18:44 AM PST by Trampled by Lambs (Ok, so changing my name was not such a good idea after all...)
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To: llevrok
Seattle City Attorney Tom Carr agrees. "I would never go in there," he said. "Because it does not look like a safe place that I'd like to be."

that could describe Minneapolis,Baltimore,D.C....

15 posted on 11/03/2006 11:20:30 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: kinoxi

...or just piss on a bum.


16 posted on 11/03/2006 11:21:19 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Rakkasan1
Seattle City Attorney Tom Carr agrees. "I would never go in there,"

Every city employee / politician who voted for these should be ordered to keep the toilets clean for 1 day each.

17 posted on 11/03/2006 11:23:01 AM PST by llevrok (How can you plant the seed of freedom by pulling out early?)
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To: llevrok
Councilman Nick Licata was the only one of the three willing to look at what our investigation uncovered. "Well, this was not my vision" he said while watching our video.

It's always intentions that count with liberals, regardless of the results.

On a more practical note, have they considered piping classical music in and around the toilets? It's supposed to be very effective at dispersing undesirables.

18 posted on 11/03/2006 11:24:09 AM PST by Disambiguator (This tagline doubles as a sarcasm tag.)
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To: llevrok
Despite the man's denials I know it's crack smoke.

I could say that I probably wouldn't, unless it's something pretty obvious...

19 posted on 11/03/2006 11:24:15 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: llevrok

Nanny state planning at its best!


20 posted on 11/03/2006 11:26:09 AM PST by RexBeach
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