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Hillary Loses Senate Debate . . . Big Time
Newsmax.com ^ | Friday, Oct. 20, 2006 | Dick Morris & Eileen McGann

Posted on 10/21/2006 11:29:13 AM PDT by US Navy guy

On Friday night, Hillary Clinton finally had to face an unscripted, uncontrolled media event -- a debate with her feisty opponent John Spencer, the Republican candidate for Senator from New York this year.

Spencer pinned her ears back with his opening statement when he declared: "I am the only person here who really wants to be the Senator from New York .... she wants to be president."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; hillary
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To: evad

Agreed.


41 posted on 10/21/2006 12:00:03 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: InvisibleChurch

Going to watch it again.


42 posted on 10/21/2006 12:02:08 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Siena Dreaming

Yeah, but Presidential debates are televised nationwide and people watch them so it will be much more difficult for the treason media to spin it into GOP "hostility". (...and this is all hypothetical in the event the Dims are actually crazy enough to nominate that Hildabeast).


43 posted on 10/21/2006 12:04:52 PM PDT by defenderSD (Blogging from a secure, undisclosed location in the southwestern United States.)
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To: defenderSD
it will be much more difficult for the treason media to spin it into GOP "hostility".

Well, CBS took the lead in brushing off Clinton's admitted infidelities. They turned his national candidacy around even though popular opinion at the time showed he was losing it as a candidate.

Granted, though, the media is losing its king-making power. Couric certainly doesn't show much clout lately for CBS. Hopefully the trend will continue and Hellery's MSM friends won't be able to help her this time.

44 posted on 10/21/2006 12:09:28 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
"When are you responsible? If you are not responsible you are not effective," Spencer said

That's a good line! The Democrats never admit responsibility for anything, its a blame-Bush all-the-time worldview. It was repulsive that Hillary blames Bush for NK nuke test when we all know that it was the failed 1994 Clinton admin deal that led us down this primrose path.

45 posted on 10/21/2006 12:11:07 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: US Navy guy

I've been saying she can't get past '08 without those incessent weekly debates the dems love to hold. It will be fascinating to see her when she can no longer duck the questions from her own party, much less if she does win the nomination and has to face our candidate (please Lord, less us nominate a person who can think on his feet).


46 posted on 10/21/2006 12:13:30 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Siena Dreaming
Well, CBS took the lead in brushing off Clinton's admitted infidelities. They turned his national candidacy around even though popular opinion at the time showed he was losing it as a candidate.

And let's not forget that years later CBS released the *whole* interview and it became clear they 'airbrushed' it to eliminate the more difficult moments. Media now is greasing the skids for Hillary, Obama, and few other media favorites.

47 posted on 10/21/2006 12:13:47 PM PDT by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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To: US Navy guy

..sounds like she could use Dick Morris about now ; ^)


48 posted on 10/21/2006 12:15:11 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Siena Dreaming
If I had to predict a 2008 election today, I'd say that Hillary is similar to Kerry because she's smart and speaks well but she carries a lot of baggage in her background. I'd say her platform would be more appealing to most voters than Kerry's but her personality is less appealing than Kerry's personality. I don't like Kerry's character but his personality is usually quite pleasant and friendly. So overall Hillary is about as strong of a candidate as Kerry.

Meanwhile the GOP candidate will not be directly responsible for Iraq, which Bush had weighing him down in 2004. So if the GOP candidate runs a good campaign, with domestic positions similar to Bush, than he should be able to do a little better against Hillary than Bush did against Kerry. That would mean he wins every state that Bush won plus possibly New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Oregon, and/or Pennsylvania. Maybe if Hillary pulled out all the stops she could take Iowa from the GOP, but overall I think we would do a little better against her than against Kerry and win decisively in the electoral vote. I sure hope my analysis is correct.

49 posted on 10/21/2006 12:19:14 PM PDT by defenderSD (Blogging from a secure, undisclosed location in the southwestern United States.)
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To: WOSG

Appreciate your thoughts on post 49.


50 posted on 10/21/2006 12:19:48 PM PDT by defenderSD (Blogging from a secure, undisclosed location in the southwestern United States.)
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To: US Navy guy
Spencer pinned her ears back with his opening statement when he declared: "I am the only person here who really wants to be the Senator from New York .... she wants to be president."

Run sHillary!

51 posted on 10/21/2006 12:24:18 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: WOSG

Spencer had another pretty good line that hasn't been reported much in the media. For some unknown reason, Hillary! said something about a plague of locusts in one of her answers. Spencer said if there actually were a plague of locusts, guess who's fault that would be, according to Hillary! - "Bush's fault!"


52 posted on 10/21/2006 12:33:50 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Hildabeast: "In the middle of the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln did not hesitate to change generals."

How many times did he change the Secretary of War?

53 posted on 10/21/2006 12:37:57 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism in a parasite that ALWAYS kills its host.)
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To: US Navy guy
WABC Radio had Hillary's sound bite about "ya know thinking about ya know running for President" at every news break. They then ended with the fact that she is ahead by 30 points.

On his morning show, Mark Simone (no Clinton fan) said she did fabulous...very smooth, took command of the room, and that she must have practiced with Bubba for quite some time.

I'm confused...FReepers are reporting that she bombed big time.
54 posted on 10/21/2006 12:42:27 PM PDT by Miss Didi
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To: conservative in nyc

Here's the exchange of words.

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=4d5zv3o


55 posted on 10/21/2006 12:45:00 PM PDT by CTSeditor
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To: Cowboy Bob
How many times did he change the Secretary of War?

Once.

56 posted on 10/21/2006 12:45:48 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: US Navy guy

Well, here's the thing. Herself, the Cold and Joyless, probably did not lose a significant amount of support, and like the approach of Rick Lazio to her podium in the 2000 debate, this onslaught by Spencer may well be seen as "being threatening".

Though what is more threatening than Herself, the Cold and Joyless, is hard to imagine.


57 posted on 10/21/2006 12:49:47 PM PDT by alloysteel (For liberals, the general calm of neighborly living is the enemy of progress.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Here's a snip of that exchange also...

http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=43h6j5k

If anyone missed it, you can view or download (about 100 megs) the entire debate here.

http://www.news10now.com/shared/videolists/buildasx.asp?vids=124&mswmext=.asx


58 posted on 10/21/2006 12:49:59 PM PDT by CTSeditor
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To: Brilliant
His best line came after Hillary said that even Abe Lincoln changed generals during the Civil War.

He said Abe Lincoln was the President...you're not president yet Mrs Clinton!!

59 posted on 10/21/2006 1:06:05 PM PDT by ditto h
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To: CTSeditor
Thanks for the link to the debate !!

I listened to half of it .....I just couldn't listen to Shrillary anymore ....heaven help us all if she should ever become President !!

John Spencer ...was NOT BAD !!

If I lived in NY ...I know who I would be voting for ...ANYONE EXCEPT THAT KNOW-IT-ALL POLITICAL HOE !!
60 posted on 10/21/2006 1:07:33 PM PDT by W-Girl
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