Carter on Korea: senile or deluded?

Waterbury Republican-American ^ | October 16, 2006 | Editorial

[Enchante]

Jimmy Peanut Carter is a bozo alert!!

Not only did Carter force his way into the North Korean crisis in 1994 (the Clinton administration didn't want him, and initially was more ready to at least appear tough), but Carter was abjectly servile to North Korea's agenda, pressed for a "resolution" to the crisis that would give North Korea everything it wanted without any real controls, and lied repeatedly in public in order to sway the course of the crisis toward his preferred resolution. Carter was not some even-handed negotiator but rather proved to be a lying shill for North Korea under the guise of pursuing "peace for our time:"

(1) When still in Korea Carter announced on CNN that the crisis was "over" before the Clinton WH had even had a chance to be briefed on the supposed "results" of Carter's negotiations, i.e, the Peanut-brain was publicly pressuring his own gov't to cave to North Korea on his terms (Carter later claimed he had merely mis-spoken about the crisis being "over" so soon, but no one who is supposed to be versed in high-level negotiations can be allowed to "mis-speak" on such a fundamental matter);

(2) There was another point when Carter made a completely false public pronouncement in order to pressure the USA to cave....

(3) When meeting back home with Clinton officials, Carter rejected an attempt to get him to keep his "report" within the administration and insisted that he would issue whatever pronouncements he wished through his Carter Center mailing list, etc. so that he could spin things his way and exert more pressure on his own government.

(4) Everyone should read the letter that Carter wrote to the North Korean dictator (Kim Jong-Ill's papa, who died later that year). It is unbelievably fawning and servile, even for "diplomacy".... showing the dark and servile heart of Jimmy Carter when he is trying to advance his candidacy for the Nobel Fools' Prize. The letter was reprinted in a book I was thumbing through in the bookstore the other day. I couldn't bear to buy the book because it is such a groveling apologia for Jimmy Carter by one of his main lackeys (see link below). In this letter Carter grovels to Kim Jong-Ill's papa even says he (Carter) hopes that Kim Il-Sung's "dream" of a united Korean nation will be achieved!!!!! That's right, I couldn't believe it, a former US president actually telling the North Korean despot that they share a dream of a united Korea....... of course, any moron should know that the terms on which North Korea could achieve a "united" Korea are not the terms acceptable to South Korea or the USA. Jimmy Carter is truly a servile, grovelling peacenik weasel who coddles the world's worst dictators.......

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http://www.amazon.com/Moment-Crisis-Peacemaker-Nuclear-Ambitions/dp/1586484141/sr=1-1/qid=1161020328/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9458461-8784810?ie=UTF8&s=books


Book Description
In A Moment of Crisis, Marion V. Creekmore, Jr. tells the story of Jimmy Carter's dramatic intervention in the 1994 North Korean nuclear crisis and shows how Carter prevented what he had determined was an almost certain war. Writing with the cooperation of President Carter, and drawing on a large amount of primary source material that has never been used before, Creekmore, who accompanied Carter into North Korea, delivers a gripping narrative of the former President on one of his most remarkable missions, a clear-eyed investigation into the controversies and successes of the mission and others like it, and an illuminating look at how to best handle North Korea and other "rogue regimes." This is essential reading for anyone interested in diplomacy of the highest order, how Jimmy Carter has accomplished the extraordinary achievements of his post-Presidency, the circumstances that can lead to war, and the resolve that it takes to avoid it.

About the Author
Marion V. Creekmore, Jr. is Distinguished Visiting Professor of History and Political Science at Emory University and previously its Vice Provost for International Affairs and the Carter Center's Program Director. A retired career diplomat, Creekmore served as U.S. Ambassador to Sri Lanka and the Maldives and Deputy Chief of Mission in India; he held several Deputy Assistant Secretary positions in Washington. Dr. Creekmore and his wife, Linda, live in Atlanta.

[jwalsh07]

Is he senile or just delusional?

Whatever malady he suffers from it has been a lifelong affliction.

[Enchante]

re: my (2) above -- I meant to add that the other point at which Carter publicly pressued the US gov't and openly undermined attempts to deal forcefully with North Korea in 1994 was when Carter publicly stated in the midst of the crisis that the US effort to get UN sanctions against North Korea was dead. That's right, just in the midst of the crisis, when US policy was to push sanctions in the Security Council as at least one feeble attempt to pressure N. Korea, Jimmy Carter sought to remove even that "stick" so that he could snuggle up to the North Korean despot.

[no other government was going to continue to support the sanctions effort when a former US president supposedly in the lead on working through the crisis had already said publicly that sanctions were dead -- Carter knew exactly what he was doing when he sought to undermine all efforts to increase pressure on North Korea. Jimmy Carter is leftist weasel scum!]

[NonValueAdded]

yes

[ripley]

"at least we would still have grampa carter telling us that is is because we are spoiled and we really need 'buck up'."

it kind of brings the parallel of the "beloved leader of north korea" to mind;

[RexBeach]

Dial 911!

[Enchante]

"I don't think Carter is senile, nor deluded. He is just appallingly dishonest as are the rest of his cohorts in crime."

Please see my #21 on this thread. I think that Carter is BOTH delusional AND dishonest. He is delusional in that he really believes that grovelling to dictators and appeasing countries like North Korea is always the best policy for an appeaser's "peace in our time"..... dishonest in that he is willing to openly lie and prevaricate and undermine even a Democratic WH in the USA in order to pursue his peacenik fantasies.........

[FreedomPoster]

Bingo!

Why should we have to choose?

[hgro]

"Carter on Korea: senile or deluded?"

BOTH!

[Right Cal Gal]

Carter's like Clinton - he's searching for a legacy that doesn't exist. As I've said before, Jimmah must have been pea green with envy at the lavish honors and sincere mourning felt when Ronaldus Magnus left us - and knowing that in the end, his death will barely cause of ripple. A failed man, a failed presidency, a failed diplomacy. Yes, he won the Nobel Peace Prize - but that accolade lost its luster the day Yassir Arafat put the word "laureate" next to his name.

And he was awarded the NPP for his diplomatic handling of North Korea's nuclear situation - which is now, of course, a disaster. But blame Bush for this, Jimmah - I'm sure the tin foil brigade still believes in you.

[JohnCliftn]

I suspect Carter was paid off.

[cinives]

Though Mr. Clinton thought the Framework would prove worthless, he signed it on Oct. 21, 1994, just to guild his image as a peacemaker.

We know this how ? Are there documents or anything to back this up ?

[Tribune7]

Deluded!

He was saying stuff like this 30 years ago so it can't be senility.

[AnAmericanMother]

Well, I voted for him -- my excuse being that I was a college sophomore (at a liberal Yankee school) and voted for him because he was from Georgia and everybody up there despised us all as rednecks. (In Carter's case they were right of course, but I didn't know that.)

I console myself with the thought that he carried Georgia overwhelmingly, so my vote really didn't make a difference one way or the other.

Been kicking myself ever since - I was too young to know what a horrible governor he had been and how much everybody who worked for him hated him. I heard all about that later . . . < blush >

[wagglebee]

Carter's like Clinton - he's searching for a legacy that doesn't exist.

I disagree. Carter is far more dangerous than Clinton.

Clinton's actions were driven by personal gain and long-term effect on his "legacy."

Carter's actions both in office and after leaving have been to detriment of American interests. Just about every foreign policy problem we have in the world today can be traced to Carter.

I believe that Clinton only cares about himself, therefore he neither loves nor hates America. Carter on the other hand, I believe truly hates America and has been assisting our enemies in working to destroy us for at least thirty years.

[ozzymandus]

Senile, delusional, stupid, bitter, arrogant, you name it, jimmy's got it.

[fourmation599]

Excuse me Mr. Carter, but NK was evil before President Bush called them out, and anyone with at least half a brain already knew this. Which means you must have less. You were surely a Half-A$$ed president.

[Enchante]

It's worse than people know..... not only did Carter thrust himself into an OBSTRUCTIVE effort to stop the Clinton WH from turning the screws on North Korea, but Carter actually LIED to both the Clinton WH and the public in order to carry his "negotiations" to the conclusion he desired. Here is a highly sympathetic account from one of Carter's weasel State Dept. buddies of the time:

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http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/features/book/20060916TDY22002.htm

Unknown to the public, virtually all official reports of the U.S.-North Korean nuclear negotiations were carefully edited before being sent to Washington. I know, because as the then U.S. State Department North Korea Affairs officer, I was the author of many of those reports....

....The editing of the reports was intended to prevent critics of the negotiations in Washington from acquiring a comprehensive picture of developments at the negotiating table. Critical information that was deleted from the written reports was conveyed separately to select colleagues in Washington via secure telephone calls....


....Carter forged ahead in disregard of South Korean President Kim Yong Sam's adamant opposition as well as severe criticism from within the Clinton administration, meeting Kim Il Sung face-to-face in Pyongyang later in June.

We learn in this book for the first time about the private communications between Carter and Ambassador Laney, his close friend of many years; the Clinton administration's efforts to deter Carter from going to North Korea; Pyongyang's determined efforts to convince Carter to visit; and Carter's personal motives for making the trip. Also for the first time, we are allowed to sit beside the former U.S. president and then North Korean leader Kim Il Sung and listen as they formulated their resolution to the impasse.

We learn of Carter's dismay with Washington's negative reaction to his breakthrough and of Clinton's closest advisers' preoccupation with Carter's relatively minor errors during his discussions in Pyongyang. Fortunately for all concerned, Carter adroitly used his friends at CNN--headquartered in his home state of Georgia--to compel Clinton's advisers to give the Carter-Kim accord tentative approval, at least until Carter was able to return to Washington to address directly the administration's concerns in person.

[Little Ray]

Solution:

"North Korea has negotiated in bad faith from the very beginning. The United States is therefore ending all contact with North Korea, and all aid. In addition, we will take vigorous action to enforce all sanctions and to end North Korea's drug dealing and counterfeiting activities."
"When North Korea takes extraordinary actions to demonstrate sincere good faith and intentions, the United States will consider renewing contact with that benighted nation."
"Any hostile action will, of course, be countered by massive retaliation."
"In the meantime, the people of North Korea may freeze and starve in the dark."

[OldSmaj]

I console myself with the thought that he carried Georgia overwhelmingly...

My father, a life-long GA resident, voted for Cottah, both as Gov and as Prez.

It is/was the only time he ever voted for a Democrat and I know he did, as I took him to the polls and was allowed to assist him in the booth.

But he will not admit to it, today.

He is 83 and will go to his grave insisting that he did not vote for Cottah.

There are many, many just like him, hence my remark about how he ever got elected.

I don't think he could get a write-in for dogcatcher in GA now and history will not treat him kindly, except for those blind few from Plains, that will lionize him in spite of everything.

Go figure.