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Grasping at guns (Grabbing guns is grasping at straws)
National Post - Canada ^ | Mon 16 Oct 2006 | Lorne Gunter

Posted on 10/16/2006 8:34:42 AM PDT by GMMAC

Grasping at guns

National Post
Mon 16 Oct 2006
Page: A13
Section: Issues & Ideas
Byline: Lorne Gunter


Almost a week after last month's tragic shooting at Montreal's Dawson College, the National Post ran a guest column by the mother of a Dawson student.

Beverly Akerman suggested a "simple" response to the crime: "no more guns. Because no one can accurately predict who among us will become unhinged enough to commit bloody slaughter, I believe guns shouldn't be available to the public."

We dubbed this a "mother's radical solution for gun crime."

But suggesting a ban on guns is hardly radical. Every time there is a Dawson-like tragedy, a chorus calls for a ban on guns.

Allan Rock, the former Liberal justice minister who was the legislative father of our current gun registry, admitted he came to office in Ottawa believing "only the police and the military should have firearms."

Since Ms. Akerman's commentary, this paper has run half a dozen letters (and received perhaps a dozen more) from professors, psychologists, health care workers and gun control advocates all calling for a gun ban, or at least wondering aloud why ordinary people should be permitted to own such destructive objects.

Banning guns is one of the most common solutions offered by urban professionals, bureaucrats and special interests in the face of each new high-profile shooting.

But consider this: A week after the Dawson shootings, Britain was transfixed by its own similar shooting. Two 17-year-olds were shot in a South London McDonald's for disrespecting their attacker during a conversation. The shooter used a semi-automatic handgun.

Yet, there were no calls for a ban on civilian ownership of handguns. Why? Because Britain had already banned civilian handguns nearly a decade ago.

In response to the horrific Dunblane, Scotland, school shootings in 1996, in which 16 five- and six-year-old children and one teacher were killed, the U.K. eliminated all civilian handgun ownership.

It's hard to call for a ban in response to a new newsworthy shooting when you already have a ban thanks to an old one.

Since 1997, it has not been legal for ordinary Britons to own a handgun. Yet since the ban, handgun homicides have gone up, not down. In the six years prior to the ban, there was an average of 33 handgun murders a year in Britain. Since then, there had been an average of nearly 43, an increase of 30% despite the ban.

In the years since the handgun ban, violent crime in Britain has spiked and the streets of the major cities are awash in illegal guns smuggled in from abroad. By Scotland Yard's estimate, as many as 4 million illegal handguns have entered the U.K. in the past nine years.

In Manchester, for example, police report an average of two firearms offences each day by 15- to 20-year-olds, alone. In most categories of firearms crimes other than murder, Britain is now more violent than the United States.

Australia has had a similar experience.

Following the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, in which a crazed gunman killed 35 people at a Tasmanian resort, the Australian national government banned most semi-automatic rifles and pump-action shotguns. Nearly a million civilian guns were confiscated (with compensation) in the months after the shooting.

Yet, while gun crimes in Australia are now noticeably lower than in 1996, shooting incidents actually rose by more than two-thirds in the five years after the government-imposed gun "surrender."

The Australian Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research (BCSR) credits the dramatic gun crime decline since 2001 not to the gun ban, but to increased police efforts to interdict illegal gun shipments and prosecute owners of illegal weapons, notably drug dealers. Don Weatherburn, the head of the BCSR, sees no evidence "to be able to say that gun laws have had any effect."

Indeed, lawful civilian gun ownership has jumped dramatically again in Australia since 2002, at precisely the same time as gun crime has been falling.

Once a disturbed individual has made up his mind to enter a school or hotel or other public building and commit mass murder, no civilian gun control -- neither a registry, nor a ban -- can stop him.

Grabbing guns is grasping at straws.

Outlawing civilian possession of firearms might give worried people the sense something is being done to make them safer. But that would just be a false sense of security.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; gunban; guncrime; gunregistry
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1 posted on 10/16/2006 8:34:44 AM PDT by GMMAC
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To: GMMAC

Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.


2 posted on 10/16/2006 8:35:57 AM PDT by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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To: fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...

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3 posted on 10/16/2006 8:36:32 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC
"Because no one can accurately predict who among us will become unhinged enough to commit bloody slaughter, I believe guns shouldn't be available to the public."

How about cars, or knives, or chainsaws, or.......

Gun-grabbers aren't the clearest thinkers, to put it mildly.

4 posted on 10/16/2006 8:36:42 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: GMMAC
"no more guns. Because no one can accurately predict who among us will become unhinged enough to commit bloody slaughter, I believe guns shouldn't be available to the public."

It is amazing how liberals have so much faith in themselves to regulate our lives through social engineering, but have so little faith in their fellow citizens.

5 posted on 10/16/2006 8:41:06 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: GMMAC
Beverly Akerman suggested a "simple" response to the crime: "no more guns. Because no one can accurately predict who among us will become unhinged enough to commit bloody slaughter, I believe guns shouldn't be available to the public."

Meanwhile she has absolutely no solution to the mental state these people possess.

6 posted on 10/16/2006 8:41:28 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: GMMAC

Oh yeah, and they pay attention to mommy like she's got a clue.


7 posted on 10/16/2006 8:42:07 AM PDT by D.P.Roberts
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To: shekkian

An interesting study would be to see if the political leanings of all these unhinged people were rightward or leftward.


8 posted on 10/16/2006 8:46:29 AM PDT by raftguide
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To: GMMAC

Keep it up lefties. I'll send $100 to the NRA if you keep it up.


9 posted on 10/16/2006 8:47:46 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens prevent fascism (imposed by the government or middle-east))
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To: All

Outlawing civilian possession of firearms might give worried people the sense something is being done to make them safer. But that would just be a false sense of security.


Will 'Gun Control' Make You Safer?

Do Gun Prohibitionists Have a Mental Problem?

Death by Gun Control: The Human Cost of Victim Disarmament

10 posted on 10/16/2006 9:05:04 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor today! -- * NRA * -- * JPFO *)
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To: GMMAC

Funny how these shoothtings never happen in a off duty cop bar or a real nasty biker bar, on Army bases, or in a gun store.


11 posted on 10/16/2006 9:05:13 AM PDT by Leisler (Read the Koran, real Islam is not peaceful.)
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To: Zack Nguyen
"Because no one can accurately predict who among us will become unhinged enough to commit bloody slaughter"...

while I agree with this statement, it's also untrue that police and military members never become "unhinged" enough to commit murder.

12 posted on 10/16/2006 9:11:50 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: raftguide
No one in his right mind would lean left.
13 posted on 10/16/2006 9:17:48 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: Mr. Mojo
Gun-grabbers aren't the clearest thinkers, to put it mildly.

Becuase it's all about feeeeeeeeelings.

14 posted on 10/16/2006 9:21:18 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: GMMAC
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Since Ms. Akerman's commentary, this paper has run half a dozen letters (and received perhaps a dozen more) from professors, psychologists, health care workers and gun control advocates all calling for a gun ban, or at least wondering aloud why ordinary people should be permitted to own such destructive objects.
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This begs the same "logic" for rapists, as I presume that Ms. Akerman herself has the equipment to commit that sexual offense against a perfectly innocent person, maybe even a harmless child.

Putting that aside, I observed during my own state's debate over allowing civilians to be licensed to carry concealed weapons, that liberals often project their own private, personal, dark fears about how they would behave if they carried a firearm.

Indeed, in some conversations and published opinion pieces, they give strong hints they fear their own inability to be able to control themselves. So they project this fear onto everyone else.

This is the only mindset that explains how emotional they can be in this debate: "We must not allow anyone to carry a weapon because if I carried, I fear I might abuse it."
15 posted on 10/16/2006 9:22:00 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: GMMAC

"no more guns"

And also no more knives, baseball bats, and many, many other objects used in crimes.


16 posted on 10/16/2006 9:29:17 AM PDT by tubasonum
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To: umgud

"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars."

Or like trying to reduce chronic depression by repeating "have a nice day" to a troubled individual.


17 posted on 10/16/2006 9:35:18 AM PDT by tubasonum
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To: GMMAC
They could just as well say that eliminating all men would end gun violence. I hate to admit it but it's true; most gun crimes are done by men. So just kill all the men.

Makes about as much sense as trying to gather up hundreds of millions of guns.

18 posted on 10/16/2006 9:45:58 AM PDT by Sender (Error 404: tagline not found)
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To: theBuckwheat; All

Putting that aside, I observed during my own state's debate over allowing civilians to be licensed to carry concealed weapons, that liberals often project their own private, personal, dark fears about how they would behave if they carried a firearm.


Raging Against Self Defense: A Psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality by Sarah Thompson, M.D.

"... About a year ago I received an e-mail from a member of a local Jewish organization. The author, who chose to remain anonymous, insisted that people have no right to carry firearms because he didn't want to be murdered if one of his neighbors had a "bad day". (I don't know that this person is a "he", but I'm assuming so for the sake of simplicity.) I responded by asking him why he thought his neighbors wanted to murder him, and, of course, got no response. The truth is that he's statistically more likely to be murdered by a neighbor who doesn't legally carry a firearm1 and more likely to be shot accidentally by a law enforcement officer.1

How does my correspondent "know" that his neighbors would murder him if they had guns? He doesn't. What he was really saying was that if he had a gun, he might murder his neighbors if he had a bad day, or if they took his parking space, or played their stereos too loud. This is an example of what mental health professionals call projection – unconsciously projecting one's own unacceptable feelings onto other people, so that one doesn't have to own them.3 In some cases, the intolerable feelings are projected not onto a person, but onto an inanimate object, such as a gun,4 so that the projector believes the gun itself will murder him..."


19 posted on 10/16/2006 9:48:51 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor today! -- * NRA * -- * JPFO *)
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To: Sender; fanfan
Although "kill all the men" enjoys considerable support within feminist circles as the solution to virtually all problems, "morph them into emasculated wallets" appears to be the more 'mainstream' position.
20 posted on 10/16/2006 10:34:09 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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