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Horowitz/Poe: The Shadow Party
California Republic ^ | 10/13/06 | Richard Kirk

Posted on 10/16/2006 2:15:15 AM PDT by tgambill

A month after John Kerry’s narrow loss to George W. Bush in 2004’s Presidential election, Eli Pariser boasted to his MoveOn associates, “Now it’s our party. We bought it. We own it.” The huge question raised by this audacious declaration was, “Who are ‘we’?” That query is answered in David Horowitz and Richard Poe’s new book, The Shadow Party—a work that also explains how this political takeover was accomplished. In the authors’ own words, “This book documents how, through an extraordinary series of political, legal, and financial maneuvers, an unlikely network of radical activists and activist billionaires gained de facto control over the Democratic Party’s campaign apparatus….”

Contributors Kirk - Contributor

Richard Kirk is a freelance writer who lives in Oceanside, California. He is the proprietor of the blog Musing With A Hammer. E-mail him at kirkrg@netzero.com [go to Kirk index]

The eminence grise lurking behind these machinations was and is George Soros, the billionaire financier and founder of the Open Society Institute. It was Soros who declared in November, 2003, that defeating President Bush was “the central focus of [his] life” and “a matter of life and death”—then devoted twenty-seven million dollars to accomplish that goal during the 2004 campaign cycle

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; globaltax; horowitz; larouchetrolls; larouchies; poe; shadowparty; sorocrats; soros; tobintax
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To: John Robertson

What is written and reported happens to be factual.....end of story. You can make all kinds of assumptions, declarations, etc...but, it doesn't change the facts. The idiots on LF, for example, are still screaming that the planes that flew into the WTC were remote controlled......:)) lolol... The passengers on Flight 93 landed in OH, they were taken off the plane and disposed of....blah blah blah....Some people lie, some are in denial and others are either paid to disinform or lie to divert the public. Even others think that think they are historians, and think; "if I didn't know about this...then it must not have happened".. lolol...:)

The truth cannot be suppressed. It will always come out. People will also die, trying to spread the truth due to the agendas of total and complete cowards and traitors.......it's actually simple.

You are one of the many that will make attempts to downplay the truth due to whatever reasons. The 7 Days in May was a movie made about the event in 1933 that actually happened. That is no question, the only question is how to convey the truth to the American Public. The plot was swept under the carpet very well.....so well, you have no idea about this true story.

* Irenee Du Pont - Right-wing chemical industrialist and founder of the American Liberty League, the organization assigned to execute the plot.
* Grayson Murphy - Director of Goodyear, Bethlehem Steel and a group of J.P. Morgan banks.
* William Doyle - Former state commander of the American Legion and a central plotter of the coup.
* John Davis - Former Democratic presidential candidate and a senior attorney for J.P. Morgan.
* Al Smith - Roosevelt's bitter political foe from New York. Smith was a former governor of New York and a co-director of the American Liberty League.
* John J. Raskob - A high-ranking Du Pont officer and a former chairman of the Democratic Party. In later decades, Raskob would become a "Knight of Malta," a Roman Catholic Religious Order with a high percentage of CIA spies, including CIA Directors William Casey, William Colby and John McCone.
* Robert Clark - One of Wall Street's richest bankers and stockbrokers.
* Gerald MacGuire - Bond salesman for Clark, and a former commander of the Connecticut American Legion. MacGuire was the key recruiter to General Butler.


MacGuire was perfectly candid to Paul French, a reporter friend of General Butler's:

"We need a fascist government in this country... to save the nation from the communists who want to tear it down and wreck all that we have built in America. The only men who have the patriotism to do it are the soldiers, and Smedley Butler is the ideal leader. He could organize a million men overnight."


http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/committee.html

http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/butler.html

http://www.answers.com/topic/business-plot

Member of this committee....and a true one worlder...

ttp://en.freepedia.org/Richard_Nixon.html


81 posted on 10/17/2006 6:02:33 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

http://en.freepedia.org/Richard_Nixon.html


82 posted on 10/17/2006 6:03:08 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill
>>>>>It looks like the same organizations and generations of the propoents of the one worlders....had a signficant hand in 1905, 1917, WWI, WWII....absolutely>>>>>

Like bad and good cholesterol, it seems that there are two different hands at play. Ever wondered why U.S. of A. does not have a national bank? Ever wondered what happened with the ideas of Alexander Hamilton?

Russia was much inspired by Hamilton's ideas and put them to good use. At the end of the 19th century, Russia had a strong National bank, abundance of wealth and did not need the services of international banksters for investment and expansion to the east. International Banksters got nervous and .... nihilists annihilated him. How convenient.

Banksters have set sights on Russian wealth long time ago, check this, at the end of the article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscovy_Company

83 posted on 10/17/2006 6:03:48 AM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: OldFriend

The responses that we will get on efforts will only become more difficult and certainly the more effective, the more they will dig in and eventually if you are signficantly effective, you will die. First is to ignore, then to discredit, bribe, threaten, or extort in some way....then the threats will become action or immediate results. This is not being dramatic, this is a fact.


84 posted on 10/17/2006 6:07:20 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill
Oops. did not mention the name. Tzar Alexander II was assasinated by Nihilists in 1881 after refusing bankster's ultimatum to hand over Russian national bank to you know whom.

The revolution of Lenin and ritual murder of Nicholas II and the entire royal familily was the Phase II of the project.

85 posted on 10/17/2006 6:11:31 AM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: tgambill

Reference Post 77 and 79 as to the beginning of communism


86 posted on 10/17/2006 6:30:59 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill
Tom,

Both Communism and Nazism had an inherent flaw - you can kill millions but you can not destroy human spirit and love of freedom.

In a sense, investment in Communism and Nazism has created only destruction of human life and material wealth, not the destruction of human spirit investors hoped for.

That's why they resorted to supporting a proven totalitarian concept, islamism. It's Konzlagers and Gulags are not guarded by barbed wire. It is guarded by the voluntary submission of human will.

That's why our "friends" in high places support Islamism. That's what you have experienced first hand.

87 posted on 10/17/2006 7:40:41 AM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: DTA

DTA, I don't know where you have been but you have a solid grasp on the situation. You are exactly right. As for me, I have experienced four years in an environment that cut out articles, pictures of Christian influence and if caught your ass was grass.....I've been in a total ethnical violent area where being from the south and seeing a caucasion murdered because he was a different ethnic group, but still caucasion was an eye opener. Describing Kosovo you know very well; five years seeing and experiencing it was another eye opener...and now here in the Dark Continent, a whole different culture that would make living in the Appalachian foothills like being in Graceland....is another eye opener. The workers that I "deal" with here, are happy (never satisfied however), to get their 9 dollars for two weeks of work???? So, when I hear my fellow Americans belly aching over their petty problems, it's violin time and a silk hanky.....boo hoo hoo....

You cannot and will never destroy the human spirit and love of freedom no matter what. Major General Butler is a true American Hero and is probably responsible for us not being at one time a dictatorship because of his love of God, country and Corps. Money was no object, although he did state that he was tempted. :)

In a way, I feel sorry for the Rochefellers, Rothschilds, DuPonts, J.P. Morgan's, Soros's of this world that have been responsible for a lot of this....they are trapped in world they cannot escape....the same goes for our Government officials who are also in cohoots...with this group and are by virtue of their family involvements......etc....are caught up in this same entity, for lack of a better word.


88 posted on 10/17/2006 8:40:29 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: DTA

Another reason they support Islamism is that Islamism is our enemy, or their enemy also...and they are hell bent on getting this "culture" (Islamic) under control. Obviously, they are not compatiable with out culture since Mohammand....however, they weren't considered an enemy by the one worlders until the late 70's....

also, the Clinton Admin supported the Islamist in the early 90's because, he being a one worlder..Rhodes scholar, which promotes and encourages a one world government by the way, views Serbs as to nationalistic and needs to be reduced.......true story. Final destination....Russia and the oil, and other reasons....etc.......there is more but not in this small space......


89 posted on 10/17/2006 8:49:44 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill; nathanbedford; beyond the sea

You start this thread, and make this one of your first comments, "Yes, I'm basically neutral on this....this was posted for reference and knowledge...."...

Then go on and on and on voluminously/ad nauseum in defense of your version of history. And your citations! Take a close look, for example, at the "bio" of Major-General Smedley Butler [why does his name, by the way, sound like the name of a character from a Bullwinkle cartoon?]: It's written by one Richard Sanders, editor of "Press for Conversion!"

When you go there and click the "About," you get this:

"About COAT

COAT is a national network of individuals and organizations in Canada that began in late 1988 to organize opposition to ARMX '89, which was the country's largest weapons bazaar. COAT has continued to expose and oppose Canada's role in the international arms trade, particularly where there is trade to governments which are engaged in war or which violate human rights.

Since its formation, the Coalition to Oppose the Arms Trade (COAT) has made significant contributions to Canada's peace movement. As an Ottawa-based organization, supported by a network of individuals and groups across Canada, COAT made great headway in exposing and opposing many military export events held in the nation's capital.

Throughout the 1990's, COAT continued to organize major events, including anti-war rallies, marches, peace vigils and conferences in Ottawa. COAT has also coordinated campaigns against war/air shows, war toys and Canada's active participation, and hypocritical role, in various U.S-led wars. Much of our work has helped to challenge the dominant cultural mythology that Canada is a great force for peace in the world. Unfortunately, the reality of the Canadian government and corporate complicity in war and injustice does not correspond to the the mythology."

Okay, your citations are from lefty-freaks, from Canada no less. READ the "autobiography" excerpts! The syntax sounds like something created last year. People did NOT write that way in the 1930s, especially retired generals, who would have had formal training in grammar and composition. It is far, far too colloquial and informal to pass my smell test.

Yet you write, "What is written and reported happens to be factual.....end of story."

And you go on:

"Some people lie, some are in denial and others are either paid to disinform or lie to divert the public. Even others think that think they are historians, and think; "if I didn't know about this...then it must not have happened".. lolol...:)

The truth cannot be suppressed. It will always come out. People will also die, trying to spread the truth due to the agendas of total and complete cowards and traitors.......it's actually simple.

You are one of the many that will make attempts to downplay the truth due to whatever reasons. The 7 Days in May was a movie made about the event in 1933 that actually happened. That is no question, the only question is how to convey the truth to the American Public. The plot was swept under the carpet very well.....so well, you have no idea about this true story."

You are either a fool or a dupe or an ass, or perhaps its hybrid, the fooldupass. AKA useful idiot.

As for insulting me for asking obvious questions, you can kiss my ass.

Hey, I'm not "basically neutral" when people come on here with hidden agendas, trying to convert and disinform. Your sources are a joke. You're either in on it or being used.

By the way, nice dodge on your non-response to my pointing out that Kennedy's "Press conferences" were not "recorded" three weeks before airing, and therefore couldn't have been yanked because he was assassinated.

You are a dangerous person.

Mostly to yourself.



90 posted on 10/17/2006 10:20:41 AM PDT by John Robertson (Even if we disagree now, we may agree later. Or vice versa.)
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To: tgambill; nathanbedford; beyond the sea

Here are the "mentors" behind your citations:

COAT Mentors

Maude Barlow National Chairperson, Council of Canadians
Dr. Rosalie Bertell, G.N.S.H. Biometrician Epidemiologist
Bonnie Cappuccino, C.M. Child Care Worker, India and Nepal
Fred Cappuccino, C.M. Unitarian Universalist Fellowship Ottawa
Marion Dewar Chair, Oxfam Canada and former Mayor of Ottawa
Muriel Duckworth, C.M. Voice of Women - Canada
Ed Finn editor, The CCPA Monitor, Canadian Center for Policy Alternatives
John Foster former Executive Director, Oxfam Canada
Marion Frank Veterans Against Nuclear Arms - Canada
Anton Kuerti Concert Pianist
Jean-Claude Parrot former Vice-President, Canadian Labor Congress
Karen Ridd Peace and Development activist
Senator Doug Roche, O.C. former Ambassador for Disarmament to the UN
Svend Robinson former NDP MP, Burnaby-Douglas, BC
Pete Seeger Musician
Alan Scarfe Actor, Director, Author


Freepers all, I'm sure.


91 posted on 10/17/2006 10:24:04 AM PDT by John Robertson (Even if we disagree now, we may agree later. Or vice versa.)
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To: John Robertson
>>>>>Freepers all, I'm sure.<<<<<

They are not for sure, but they have neither invented the plot. We do not declare the laws of physics fraudulent because Hitler's V2s used it.

You may dismiss Tgambill's sources but you can not dismiss the facts recorded in the official US Congressional records:

MacCormack-Dickstein Committee documents published by the House UnAmerican Activities Committee (HUAC):

Investigation of Nazi Propaganda Activities and Investigation of Certain other Propaganda Activities Public Statement of the Special Commmittee on Un-American Activities - House of Representatives, 73 Congress, Second Session at Washington DC, Nov. 24, 1934 (pages 1-12)

Investigation of Un-American Activites: (part 1 of) Testimony by Gerald C. MacGuire (pages 39-47)

Investigation of Un-American Activites: (part 2 of)

Testimony by Gerald C. MacGuire (pages 47-87), Testimony by Claude M. Adamson (of Central Hanover Bank) (pages 89-99) and (part 1 of) Resumed Testimony by Gerald C. MacGuire (pages 99-105)

Investigation of Un-American Activites: (part 2 of) Resumed Testimony by Gerald C. MacGuire (pages 106-125), Testimony by James Haggett (of Lawyers County Trust) (pages 127-128), Testimony by public accountant James Rempe (pages 129-136) and Testimony by Albert Christmas (Attorney for Robert Clark) (pages 136-162).

Any good librarian worth his or her salt can pull it out for you.

92 posted on 10/17/2006 12:19:37 PM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: DTA

"You may dismiss Tgambill's sources but you can not dismiss the facts recorded in the official US Congressional records:

MacCormack-Dickstein Committee documents published by the House UnAmerican Activities Committee (HUAC):

Investigation of Nazi Propaganda Activities and Investigation of Certain other Propaganda Activities Public Statement of the Special Commmittee on Un-American Activities - House of Representatives, 73 Congress, Second Session at Washington DC, Nov. 24, 1934 (pages 1-12)"

...that's where I stopped. HUAC was formed in 1938. Period.
Or, End of discussion, as the guy you're shilling for might say. Watch the condescension, okay? And check things out with "any good librarian worth his or her salt" WITH ACTUAL CONGRESSIONAL RECORDS PRINTED DURING THAT ERA, not stuff ginned up on whackjob websites.


93 posted on 10/17/2006 12:31:28 PM PDT by John Robertson (Even if we disagree now, we may agree later. Or vice versa.)
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To: John Robertson
JonhRobertson, in your opinion, was there a plot in 1933 or not?
94 posted on 10/17/2006 12:54:05 PM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: John Robertson
Well, JohnRobertson, so? Was there a coup planning in 1933 or not?

Here is an auxilliary question. Is U.S. Govermnent also whacko leftist site in your opinion?

http://www.archives.gov/legislative/guide/house/chapter-22-select-propaganda.html

As you can see, there was a Special Committee on Un-American Activities authorized to Investigate Nazi Propaganda and Certain Other Propaganda Activities prior to 1938.

95 posted on 10/17/2006 1:12:30 PM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: DTA

"JonhRobertson, in your opinion, was there a plot in 1933 or not?"

In my opinion, I can't say. I'm really more interested in FACTS, not opinions. My point has been, I question most of the sources cited on this thread, especially by the originator of it.

Now please leave me alone.


96 posted on 10/17/2006 1:20:39 PM PDT by John Robertson (Even if we disagree now, we may agree later. Or vice versa.)
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To: John Robertson; Hoplite

oh my...testy testy, my boy. Getting a little nervous. My dodge was not a dodge, about the press conference. It was a dismiss as being a shill, shrill, or idiot in your case. Now, you are either trying to provoke, leading me to retort, hoping to get a ban like hippelite, or hopper lite...or whatever....:), or you are one of "them thar one's that ere paid a few bucks as ther little erran boy"....I see that you want to go the disrespectful side. so, that leads me to think you are "touched"..."need meds" or one of those "he doth protest too much" just to be a simple poster.

Your posting are emotional, lack credibility, and frankly make me smile, so keep them coming on. Oh, by the way, Sweetpea, calling me Dangerous, is a complement actually. thank you. You haven't seen anything yet.....I'm just getting cranked up. So, let's keep these emails coming on, simply because the more you express this "hostility" the more I OWN you. As you now belong to me........:)


97 posted on 10/17/2006 3:10:47 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: John Robertson

Oh, about the References....COAT or JACKET or MINK.....:)) If the information is true, I don't care if it's HOOD....The information is correct. I know the story and read the references. If you would bother to read the story and know the Major General, you would not show your stupidity or emotional outburst and maybe share or discuss without getting your panties in a bunch....:)) However, if this is the style of posting you want, then we shall have fun with it.

Me Dangerous, I plan on being very dangerous.

Back at you tomorrow..........


98 posted on 10/17/2006 3:17:47 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: mariabush

:)) Well, not neutral now.....lolol...I was wondering how long it would take.


99 posted on 10/18/2006 12:53:11 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: DB
Deep...

Very... : )

100 posted on 10/18/2006 2:59:15 AM PDT by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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