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'The US housing bubble will disappear'
in2perspective ^ | September 11, 2006 | Laurie Osborne

Posted on 10/14/2006 9:48:44 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

'The US housing bubble will disappear'

By Laurie Osborne, Editor

Published 11th Sep 2006

That the US housing bubble will disappear someday is a certainty. That it will blow up catastrophically is a fair bet, warns The Daily Reckoning's Bill Bonner.

Observing recent statistics, Bonner calls the evidence "formidable".

The total value of residential property in developed countries rose by more than $30 trillion, to $70 trillion, over the past five years – eclipsing the combined GDPs of those nations.

Consumer spending and residential construction have accounted for 90 percent of the total growth in the American GDP over the last four years, and more than 40 percent of all private-sector jobs created since 2001 have been in housing-related sectors, including construction and mortgage brokering.

America made some of its biggest gains this past year, with average prices of homes rising 12.5% in the year and prices in Florida, California, Nevada, Hawaii, Maryland and Washington, DC, rising more than 20 percent, while in Palm Beach County, Florida, it rose over 35%. Sales of existing homes in the US set a new high at 7.18 million in April.

Some foreign countries showed bigger gains than the US in the last year, with prices up by 23.6 percent in South Africa, 19 percent in Hong Kong and over 15 percent in Spain and France. But average house prices have actually fallen by 7% in Australia since 2003; Sydney's bubblicious prices have plunged by 16%. In Britain, sales have contracted by a third from last year and have also slowed down in Ireland, the Netherlands and New Zealand. In Britain and Australia, these declines followed what were only very modest interest rate increases.

23 percent of all American houses bought last year were for investment and in Miami, one speculation hot spot, 70% of condo buyers are investors/speculators.

Last year, 42 percent of America's first-time buyers – and 25 percent of all buyers – put no money down.

In California, 60 percent of all new mortgages this year are interest-only or negative-amortization.

House prices in relation to rent have hit all-time highs in the US, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, France, Spain, the Netherlands, Ireland and Belgium. In the US, the ratio is 35 percent above its 1975-2000 average. The price to rent ratio is a cardinal indicator of over valuation.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bubble; bubblebrigade; depression; despair; doom; dustbowl; eeyore; goldpimpalert; goregloomgutless; grapesofwrath; housingbubble; joebtfsplk; realestate
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To: nmh

The difference between the housing market and the stock market is a big thing these doomsayers miss.

We can live without owning stock.

It gets really uncomfortable living without a house. And that is why they are full of it.


21 posted on 10/14/2006 10:05:17 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: GodGunsGuts

Just commenting on what I see to be bad news:

23 percent of all American houses bought last year were for investment and in Miami, one speculation hot spot, 70% of condo buyers are investors/speculators.

Last year, 42 percent of America's first-time buyers – and 25 percent of all buyers – put no money down.

In California, 60 percent of all new mortgages this year are interest-only or negative-amortization.

I know, I'm supposed to spin it in a positive way. I don't. The facts speak for themselves.

"Why do you have to be so negative? Don't you know that the time to take out an ARM and buy real estate is now!"

Aboslutely!!!!! In fact add to these percentages:

(Why limit yourself to ARM's ?)

Last year, 42 percent of America's first-time buyers – and 25 percent of all buyers – put no money down.

In California, 60 percent of all new mortgages this year are interest-only or negative-amortization.

Yup, that's the way to go ... LOL!!!





22 posted on 10/14/2006 10:07:15 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Any publication called The Daily Reckoning must be right, especially when it claims to have "formidable" evidence.
23 posted on 10/14/2006 10:08:56 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Just make sure your spec house isn't one of 10,000 just like it on 1/4 acre with many acres of undeveloped land around it. I am thinking of Loudoun and Prince William counties around here. But even if you do that it just means you might have up to 10 years of price stagnation as the land gets used up. The other advantage is you will have 10 years living in a nice house while ex-tex and the rest stay in their trailers waiting in vain for the giveaways.


24 posted on 10/14/2006 10:09:16 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: palmer

Yeah, but you can hardly pimp gold with a message like that.


25 posted on 10/14/2006 10:09:19 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
That it will blow up catastrophically is a fair bet...

After all, even idiotic sucker bets are "fair."

26 posted on 10/14/2006 10:10:23 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

in the early 80's, i got a VA loan for 12.5% fixed, no money down ( 2 points up front to the VA for fees) on 78k.

The mortgage P&I and insurance etc was 3 times what I had been previously paying in rent. I was makin 20k a year, my wife was making about 5k a year.

ARMS, at the time were just coming into the daylight.
What's worse ? 0% interest or 12.5% interest ?

The point ? the sky didn't fall !


27 posted on 10/14/2006 10:12:19 AM PDT by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: Petronski

I had to stop buying gold and silver so I would have enough paper money for my downpayment. I am negative on all currencies (dollar, euro, yen, etc) in the long run, but still don't have more than 10% or so in precious metals. But I also have to admit about 25-30% of my retirement is in metals, energy, etc.


28 posted on 10/14/2006 10:12:24 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Petronski

There's no need to bring up gold...you always do it for me. LOL!


29 posted on 10/14/2006 10:12:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
That it will blow up catastrophically is a fair bet, warns The Daily Reckoning's Bill Bonner.

I think the day of reckoning is to be a one shot deal, when the value of real estate or gold will not matter.

30 posted on 10/14/2006 10:13:52 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: palmer

Investing in gold is one thing.


Daily gloomwhoring spam that pimps gold is quite another.


31 posted on 10/14/2006 10:14:12 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

The Daily reckoning is always bearish and against the United States. The main writer also lives in France if that tells you something


32 posted on 10/14/2006 10:14:18 AM PDT by ground_fog
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To: GodGunsGuts
That the US housing bubble will disappear someday is a certainty. That it will blow up catastrophically is a fair bet, warns The Daily Reckoning's Bill Bonner.

Bill Bonner must be a conservative to appear so optimistic. /s

He sounds like one of those who would drink kool aid because someone prophesied the end of the world.

33 posted on 10/14/2006 10:14:53 AM PDT by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

should I actually listen to anyone from a organization called "Daily Reckoning"????


34 posted on 10/14/2006 10:15:40 AM PDT by DontBelieveAugPolls
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To: palmer

You are a very wise man. Keep holding on to your gold, it will be blasting off on in its next leg up in short order.


35 posted on 10/14/2006 10:16:09 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Petronski
You crack me up, Petro. You are the one who keeps bringing up gold, and then you slam on people for talking about it. I'm starting to think you have a split personality. LOL!
36 posted on 10/14/2006 10:18:19 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: nmh

Miami is a nortriously erratic market.

I remember in 1978-80 Condos in MIA going for $100,000+. By 1982 those same units were selling for $65,000.....been there before.


37 posted on 10/14/2006 10:18:23 AM PDT by DontBelieveAugPolls
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To: GodGunsGuts
With all those ARM loans, no money down deals and interest only loans in the past three years -- there will be hell to pay. Did you hear about the 24 year old real estate guru who now has over $ 2.2 million in real estate? He is facing foreclosure on five homes. He bought some sight unseen in other states with other peoples' money. But wait! He started a blog and was able to borrow some more money. He is looking to get another bite at the big apple. From rags to real estate riches in just a few weeks. Nothing to see here. It's just play money. Playing monopoly with little plastic houses was never this easy.

Video: Foreclosures Spike in California

P.S. He may still contact that possee. I hear they are still putting together ponzi deals in Pittsburgh.

38 posted on 10/14/2006 10:18:26 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: nmh
In California,

Gee.

The rest of the country is apples, California is oranges.

39 posted on 10/14/2006 10:18:58 AM PDT by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: ground_fog
The Daily reckoning is always bearish and against the United States.

That attitude is de rigeur for the fear lobby on FR.

40 posted on 10/14/2006 10:19:17 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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