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Korea Raises Nuclear Stakes over Sanctions: Hydrogen Bomb Test
The Age ^ | 13 Oct 2006 | Deborah Cameron

Posted on 10/12/2006 12:10:32 PM PDT by UnsinkableMollyBrown

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To: MaineVoter2002
Clinton gave them more than we thought!

Mr Kim leans over a podium and solemnly intones: "Now I want you to listen to me! I DID ... NOT have a thermonuclear reaction with that bomb ..."

101 posted on 10/12/2006 1:46:32 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ('... we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back' - Abu Ghraib Prisoner)
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To: Redcitizen

Your Jedi mind tricks won't work on me....


102 posted on 10/12/2006 1:49:20 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: standingfirm

"For some reason, it's hard to take Kim seriously, but I know we should."

I'm sure President Bush does take lil Kim seriously...after all, NK made the Axis of Evil, an honor few other countries can relish :)


103 posted on 10/12/2006 1:51:37 PM PDT by debg
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To: UnsinkableMollyBrown

So they can barely muster a .5 KT fission nuke (assuming it actually was a nuke) and now they're going to make the jump to fusion?

*snicker*


104 posted on 10/12/2006 1:52:50 PM PDT by BJClinton (Celebrate diversity: re-elect Congressman Foley!)
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To: Kozak

Actually Kimmy's been talking to Warner Brother's Marvin the Martian looking to score one of those Illudium PeeU-38 explosive space modulators...

If they get one of those, we are done for! You hear me! Done for!


105 posted on 10/12/2006 1:58:53 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Tennessee_Bob; Redcitizen

Let him pass. Those aren't the droids we're looking for.


106 posted on 10/12/2006 2:01:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: UnsinkableMollyBrown

Newt Gingrich said something profound: NK has never NOT exported or sold their weapons. Me: I would not be surprised if Iran goes nuclear VERY soon. They have plenty of money. Makes the test even more ominous.


107 posted on 10/12/2006 2:03:35 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: UCANSEE2

I don't think my comment deserved that much sarcasm.


108 posted on 10/12/2006 2:23:29 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Charles Martel

Saw that; had me rolling on the floor.


109 posted on 10/12/2006 2:24:40 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: uglybiker
no, no, no, it will be another small test:

110 posted on 10/12/2006 2:40:50 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: NurdlyPeon
[Caption: (AP) October 13, 2000 Pyongyang, North Korea -- US Secretary of State Madeline Albright dances as children from the Manyongdae Children's Palace of Pyongyang sing a chorus of "With Our Dear Leader In the Lead, And the Valient People's Army, We Will Slit The Throats Of the American Imperialist Agressors."]

111 posted on 10/12/2006 2:45:03 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: RobRoy
That ugly jerk might get himself fried yet.
112 posted on 10/12/2006 2:45:55 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: UnsinkableMollyBrown

I'm waving the BS flag this time. There's now frickin' way that they can test an H bomb. If they couldn't get a fission weapon right, then they cannot have a "Hydrogen Bomb" because it uses a fission reaction as the trigger to set of a secondary fusion burn.

We have found "Baghdad" Bob's relief...at least we have the Korean version of the former Iraqi information minister.....


113 posted on 10/12/2006 3:14:13 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: UnsinkableMollyBrown
The new high card has been played by North Korea's unofficial spokesman in Tokyo

Well, it's nice to see that the guy has a new gig....

114 posted on 10/12/2006 3:33:41 PM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Sooth2222

That picure is a hoax plain as day.

The first clue is the resolution, in that CCD density of the contemporary photographic chips of the day were insufficient to render such resolution.

Secondly, the color depth is far too great for comtemporary digital photography of the time. CGA color was the bleeding edge color depth at the time. The image clearly appears to be emulating EGA (or even VGA) color.

And finally, the dead giveaway, as everybody knows, digital cameras of the day didn't have the capability to embed TrueType font dates into the image.


115 posted on 10/12/2006 3:48:15 PM PDT by raygun (Whenever I see U.N. blue helmets I feel like laughing and puking at the same time.)
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To: RightWhale

It might be if it works. N Kor isn't that big a place.



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LOL


116 posted on 10/12/2006 4:19:02 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: UnsinkableMollyBrown

Kim's most devastating weapon is clearly his verbal flatulence bomb.


117 posted on 10/12/2006 5:01:07 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: stevie_d_64
Kimmy's been talking to Warner Brother's Marvin the Martian looking to score one of those Illudium PeeU-38 explosive space modulators...

IMO, that "earth-shattering kaboom" might turn out a little differently than Kim is expecting.

"Of course you realize... this means WAR!"

118 posted on 10/12/2006 8:00:56 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: east1234
Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen. An isotope is any of several different forms of an element each having different atomic mass. Isotopes of an element have nuclei with the same number of protons (the same atomic number) but different numbers of neutrons. Therefore, isotopes have different mass numbers, which give the total number of nucleons - the number of protons plus neutrons. Isotopes and nuclides are specified by the name of the particular element, implicitly giving the atomic number, followed by a hyphen and the mass number (e.g. helium-3, carbon-12, carbon-14, iodine-131 and uranium-238). In symbolic form, the number of nucleons is denoted as a superscripted prefix to the chemical symbol (e.g. 12C, 14C, 131I and 238U).

Deuterium occurs in trace amounts naturally as deuterium gas, written symbolicaly 2H2, but most natural occurrence in the universe is bonded with a typical 1H atom, a gas called hydrogen deuteride (1H2H).

Deuterium behaves chemically similarly to ordinary hydrogen, but there are differences in bond energy and length for compounds of heavy hydrogen isotopes which are larger than the isotopic differences in any other element. Bonds involving deuterium and tritium are somewhat stronger than the corresponding bonds in light hydrogen, and these differences are enough to make significant changes in biological reactions.

Anyways, the problem wasn't so much with deuterium, but with tritium contaminatin.

Deuterium is indeed wonderful stuff from a nuclear bomb maker's perspective, but by squirting tritium instead of deuterium into the Hohlraum at the moment of ignition, larger quantities of neutrons could be generated in order to boost the normal fission reaction (by a factor of five to 40). Such reaction could even blast neutrons into another tritium supply, and thereby cause a fusion reaction.

In simple terms, neutrons are the stuff of atom bombs. When they're liberated from their host atoms, they radiate outwards bombarding other atomic nuclei, causing them to fission and thereby release even more neutrons. Hydrogen isn't supposed to have any neutrons (albeit the deuterium hydrogen isotope does have one/I>), let alone the two that tritium contains.

The nucleus of tritium contains one proton and two neutrons, whereas the nucleus of protium (the most abundant hydrogen isotope) contains no neutrons. It is a molecular gas (T2 or 3H2) at standard temperature and pressure. Tritium combines with oxygen to form a liquid called tritiated water T2O or partially tritiated THO.

31T ==> 32He+ + e - + ve

This reaction releases about 18.6 KeV of energy with the electron carrying an average kinetic energy of 6.5 keV, and the remaining energy being carried off undetectably by the electron antineutrino. As such, the low energy decay particles emitted creates a difficulty in detecting tritium labelled compounds except through the use of liquid scintillation counting.

The means of mass producing tritium are by placing Lithium-Aluminum into a nuclear reactor and allowing the thermal neutron flux to irradiate and transform the Li into tritium. By extracting the small faceted bubbles inside the metal, one can concentrate the tritium these bubbles contain. The Germans did this at the Greifswald plant.

Since that's a pretty high-tech and resource intensive process, the source of the tritium undoubtedly came from the former DDR nuclear program. Although the German nuclear plants were under international inspection, they did manage to circumvent some plutonium inspections, and there's no international controls on tritium at all. Concealing tritium production would be child's play (such as smuggled into the country via NiH batteries - virtually undetectable to scrutiny).

The most likely reason that DPRK's recent alleged nuclear test was probably a "fizzle", is that the bomb engineer was shot in the back of the head at 1m range prior explaining the proceedure for extraction of the tritium from the NiH batteries containing it. While the process is somewhat delicate, it is nevertheless pretty straightfoward: heating of the batteries would release the tritium (something any university student of nuclear science would be capable of performing).

However, since tritium is inherently unstable on a nuclear level it decays radioactively into 32He+. It has a half-life of about 12.3 years, and therefore, it would've been necessary to filter out the significant quantity of He-3 decay products in order to ensure pure tritium could be introduced into the bomb at the moment of ignition. Filtering the tritium through a thin block of palladium would've easily separated out the 3He from the tritium.

The fact of the matter is that the head of DPRK's bomb program was in fact an ex-DDR nuclear scientist, and while brilliant and meticulous to a fault, was the stereotypical arrogant, egotistical German and quite impertinent towards the Illustrious Leader of North Korea. Therefor, once the final assembly process had been completed, the mastermind had been quite simply neutralized. Besides, he knew too much about where the bodies where buried with respect to the international aspects of the DPRK (and others) nuclear program(s). However, he was snuffed prior to imparting this last bit of fairly critical imformation, and as such the bomb's operation depended upon hardly any worse material imaginable.

The net result was that the intensely neutron-starved-3He-poisoned-tritium trapped over 2/7th of all the high-energy neutrons emitted from the Primary in useless reactions. Albeit, while the following reaction did occur to some extent:

n + 3He ==> 3H + 1H + 0.764 MeV,

and some tritium was generated as a result, that process is strongly spin dependent, i.e., spin-polarized Helium-3 allows the transmission of neutrons having one spin component, while absorbing the other spin-component species of neutron. While 1/2 of the scavanged high-energy neutrons essentially are allowed a get-out-of-jail-free card, 50% of the remaining half are either converted into utterly worthlessly stable 4He, and so about 25% are then caught in the above reaction. In any event, even so tritium is created out of the 3He poison, no additional neutrons are generated by 2/7th of the neutrons emitted from the Primary. This is very fatally bad for any aspiring nuclear chain reaction. Very very very bad in fact. Most reactions of this type "fizzle", instead this one "foomped".

This should be a lesson to everybody: do not "off" your main science dweebs before (at the very least) the evil weapon has been proven proof in concept, and secondly, don't buy evil-havengod(sp?)-weapons supplies/components from has-been science-dweebs foreign nationals of has-been Soviet bloc countries that you're employing that you plan to snuff out before they come through. I think that pretty much sums it up.

I can't tell you how hearbroken I am 'bout all that.


119 posted on 10/12/2006 8:21:51 PM PDT by raygun (Whenever I see U.N. blue helmets I feel like laughing and puking at the same time.)
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To: raygun

Thank you "Bill the Science Guy"...

I actually think it was a dud because the guy they sent out to light the fuse forgot his lighter...And didn't bring the backup box of matches...

Thus he got shot in the back of the head...


120 posted on 10/13/2006 1:21:41 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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