Posted on 10/10/2006 5:50:58 PM PDT by neverdem
Not from me, lady. I thought your comments were right on.
That's a great story. Sounds like your DS was a top notch NCO. I totally agree about the yelling and screaming NCO. More often than not, the NCOs who have to command respect and the ability to get others to listen to them by screaming all the time are the biggest know-nothing dumbasses around. The NCOs who are able to remain calm and unflappable, and who can command more respect from a simple glare than from stomping around like a child on a power trip, are the ones who have the most to offer their soldiers. I learned this quickly and remembered it when I became an NCO.
They were also very deficient in time management because it was alway double time here, double time there. It was like we were forever almost late for whatever gathering the Army had planned for us. Had these instructors planned out their time schedules more thoroughly, we would not have had hurry to our next class. Since they had no such skills, we had to deal with the wrath they were dealing out to us due to their lack of planning.
Talk about scapegoats, we were it...........
Long time, archy!
As I recall from my training, the life of a Soviet conscript was pretty tough. Those senior beat and robbed the newbies and this was ingrained into their system. It didn't do the newbies much good to get CARE packages since they usually got stolen, too.
It's one thing for bloodstripes and bloodwings but sometimes those ceremonies got out of hand and devolved into beatings and sometimes worse.
I think you've watched too much tv.
Outside the initial shock greeting of the reception station, screaming in people's face just to get under their skin doesn't prepare them for combat.
Lts and Captains don't spend time doing that, either and they certainly don't order privates around. That is the NCO's job and by that time it isn't an 'in the face' exchange by any means.
Too much tv; too many movies, too little time around troops.
I am mildly amused we are both around to celebrate it. Slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, and all that.
As I recall from my training, the life of a Soviet conscript was pretty tough. Those senior beat and robbed the newbies and this was ingrained into their system. It didn't do the newbies much good to get CARE packages since they usually got stolen, too.
Yeah, easier to get away with on scared newbie recruits, less so on kontrakti and afghantsi who've been around the block a few times and know what it's about. But note that it's less-commonly Russian combat veterans making life brutal for the 'cruits, but REMFS hiding in rear-echelon training formations.
It's one thing for bloodstripes and bloodwings but sometimes those ceremonies got out of hand and devolved into beatings and sometimes worse.
I've known of it to go waaaay beyond bloodwings even with some US outfits, especially AFTER hard-core training was over and spilling a little of someone else's blood was seen as a entry key into *the club.* But that was more commonly with someone outside the unit, not the brutalization of one just beginning such training. Though some military academies used to be pretty rough on plebes/Rooks/dumbjohns , well beyond *Level C* SERE training.
What years, please? Not a dig at you, just professional curiousity.
When I was at P.I. in 1994, our D.I.'s used to make fun of the female recruits marching off in the distance while the females were screaming: "Aye Ma'am, Aye Ma'am." Then they'd pit us for even looking at them. Summer at P.I. was great. I lost about 34 lbs. (something I can only dream about right now!)
Ah..Precision Drilling!
Did I also here that their motto will be changed again?
From:
AN ARMY OF ONE
To:
AN ARMY OF SOME PRETTY NICE GALS AND GUYS
Now for that Casons Go Rolling Along song - too militaristic. Gotta try something new
4/69 - 1/72 but it's in my profile. FWIW, it was my attempt at humor.....
lol...thanks for the debrief. By the by, I appreciate your style- you idiot! ;D
Don't know if you saw this one, so pinging you to it.
Thanks I will check it out.
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