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Clash of civilizations: Battle of Lepanto revisited
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Posted on 10/07/2006 5:14:48 AM PDT by toon shine

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Lest we forget, the battle continues...
1 posted on 10/07/2006 5:14:49 AM PDT by toon shine
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To: indcons; WKB; RunningWolf; NYer

Interesting article on an aspect of the Crusades and the role of the Catholic church in it.


2 posted on 10/07/2006 5:30:19 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Thanks for the ping


3 posted on 10/07/2006 5:34:54 AM PDT by WKB (I Refuse To Have A Battle Of Wits With An Unarmed Person.)
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To: toon shine

Bump for later.


4 posted on 10/07/2006 5:38:23 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" – Anonymous)
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To: toon shine

Bump for later reading!


5 posted on 10/07/2006 5:41:21 AM PDT by F-117A (They say there is no such thing as an ex-Marine,.Murtha disproves that!!!)
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To: toon shine

It could be argued that part of the success of Islam's spread centuries ago was due to the split between the Eastern & Western churches ("divided we fall" so to speak). This article posits that the idea of a "Europe" was in response to the threat from Islam (i.e., join forces to fight back).

The question is, will today's fractured politics lead to Islam's further success?


6 posted on 10/07/2006 5:44:51 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: toon shine

7 posted on 10/07/2006 6:04:59 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: metmom

We need to pray to God to give us a similar victory over the Islamofascists and the left wing slimy domestic traitors in this country. I like the result of Lepanto a total rout.


8 posted on 10/07/2006 6:08:07 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: DarthVader

It worked for Normandy when God sent the fog to cover our troops movements. We need to remember this.


9 posted on 10/07/2006 6:14:22 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: toon shine

Lepanto

White founts falling in the courts of the sun,
And the Soldan of Byzantium is smiling as they run;
There is laughter like the fountains in that face of all men feared,
It stirs the forest darkness, the darkness of his beard,
It curls the blood-red crescent, the crescent of his lips,
For the inmost sea of all the earth is shaken with his ships.
They have dared the white republics up the capes of Italy,
They have dashed the Adriatic round the Lion of the Sea,
And the Pope has cast his arms abroad for agony and loss,
And called the kings of Christendom for swords about the Cross,
The cold queen of England is looking in the glass;
The shadow of the Valois is yawning at the Mass;
From evening isles fantastical rings faint the Spanish gun,
And the Lord upon the Golden Horn is laughing in the sun.

Dim drums throbbing, in the hills half heard,
Where only on a nameless throne a crownless prince has stirred,
Where, risen from a doubtful seat and half-attainted stall,
The last knight of Europe takes weapons from the wall,
The last and lingering troubadour to whom the bird has sung,
That once went singing southward when all the world was young.
In that enormous silence, tiny and unafraid,
Comes up along a winding road the noise of the Crusade.
Strong gongs groaning as the guns boom far,
Don John of Austria is going to the war,
Stiff flags straining in the night-blasts cold
In the gloom black-purple, in the glint old-gold,
Torchlight crimson on the copper kettle-drums,
Then the tuckets, then the trumpets, then the cannon, and he comes.
Don John laughing in the brave beard curled,
Spurning of his stirrups like the thrones of all the world,
Holding his head up for a flag of all the free.
Love-light of Spain - hurrah!
Death-light of Africa!
Don John of Austria
Is riding to the sea.

Mahound is in his paradise above the evening star,
(Don John of Austria is going to the war.)
He moves a mighty turban on the timeless houri's knees,
His turban that is woven of the sunset and the seas.
He shakes the peacock gardens as he rises from his ease,
And he strides among the tree-tops and is taller than the trees,
And his voice through all the garden is a thunder sent to bring
Black Azrael and Ariel and Ammon on the wing.
Giants and the Genii,
Multiplex of wing and eye,
Whose strong obedience broke the sky
When Solomon was king.

They rush in red and purple from the red clouds of the morn,
From temples where the yellow gods shut up their eyes in scorn;
They rise in green robes roaring from the green hells of the sea
Where fallen skies and evil hues and eyeless creatures be;
On them the sea-valves cluster and the grey sea-forests curl,
Splashed with a splendid sickness, the sickness of the pearl;
They swell in sapphire smoke out of the blue cracks of the ground, -
They gather and they wonder and give worship to Mahound.
And he saith, "Break up the mountains where the hermit-folk may hide,
And sift the red and silver sands lest bone of saint abide,
And chase the Giaours flying night and day, not giving rest,
For that which was our trouble comes again out of the west.
We have set the seal of Solomon on all things under sun,
Of knowledge and of sorrow and endurance of things done,
But a noise is in the mountains, in the mountains, and I know
The voice that shook our palaces - four hundred years ago:
It is he that saith not 'Kismet'; it is he that knows not Fate;
It is Richard, it is Raymond, it is Godfrey in the gate!
It is he whose loss is laughter when he counts the wager worth,
Put down your feet upon him, that our peace be on the earth."
For he heard drums groaning and he heard guns jar,
(Don John of Austria is going to the war.)
Sudden and still - hurrah!
Bolt from Iberia!
Don John of Austria
Is gone by Alcalar.

St. Michael's on his Mountain in the sea-roads of the north
(Don John of Austria is girt and going forth.)
Where the grey seas glitter and the sharp tides shift
And the sea-folk labour and the red sails lift.
He shakes his lance of iron and he claps his wings of stone;
The noise is gone through Normandy; the noise is gone alone;
The North is full of tangled things and texts and aching eyes
And dead is all the innocence of anger and surprise,
And Christian killeth Christian in a narrow dusty room,
And Christian dreadeth Christ that bath a newer face of doom,
And Christian hateth Mary that God kissed in Galilee,
But Don John of Austria is riding to the sea.
Don John calling through the blast and the eclipse
Crying with the trumpet, with the trumpet of his lips,
Trumpet that sayeth ha!
Domino gloria!
Don John of Austria
Is shouting to the ships.

King Philip's in his closet with the Fleece about his neck
(Don John of Austria is armed upon the deck.)
The walls are hung with velvet that is black and soft as sin,
And little dwarfs creep out of it and little dwarfs creep in.
He holds a crystal phial that has colours like the moon,
He touches, and it tingles, and he trembles very soon,
And his face is as a fungus of a leprous white and grey
Like plants in the high houses that are shuttered from the day,
And death is in the phial and the end of noble work,
But Don John of Austria has fired upon the Turk.
Don John's hunting, and his hounds have bayed -
Booms away past Italy the rumour of his raid.
Gun upon gun, ha! ha!
Gun upon gun, hurrah!
Don John of Austria
Has loosed the cannonade.

The Pope was in his chapel before day or battle broke,
(Don John of Austria is hidden in the smoke.)
The hidden room in a man's house where God sits all the year,
The secret window whence the world looks small and very dear.
He sees as in a mirror on the monstrous twilight sea
The crescent of his cruel ships whose name is mystery;
They fling great shadows foe-wards, making Cross and Castle dark,
They veil the plumed lions on the galleys of St. Mark;
And above the ships are palaces of brown, black-bearded chiefs,
And below the ships are prisons, where with multitudinous griefs,
Christian captives sick and sunless, all a labouring race repines
Like a race in sunken cities, like a nation in the mines.
They are lost like slaves that swat, and in the skies of morning hung
The stairways of the tallest gods when tyranny was young.

They are countless, voiceless, hopeless as those fallen or fleeing on
Before the high Kings' horses in the granite of Babylon.
And many a one grows witless in his quiet room in hell
Where a yellow face looks inward through the lattice of his cell,
And he finds his God forgotten, and he seeks no more a sign -
(But Don John of Austria has burst the battle-line!)
Don John pounding from the slaughter-painted poop,
Purpling all the ocean like a bloody pirate's sloop,
Scarlet running over on the silvers and the golds,
Breaking of the hatches up and bursting of the holds,
Thronging of the thousands up that labour under sea
White for bliss and blind for sun and stunned for liberty.
Vivat Hispania!
Domino Gloria!
Don John of Austria
Has set his people free!

Cervantes on his galley sets the sword back in the sheath
(Don John of Austria rides homeward with a wreath.)
And he sees across a weary land a straggling road in Spain,
Up which a lean and foolish knight forever rides in vain,
And he smiles, but not as Sultans smile, and settles back the blade. . .

(But Don John of Austria rides home from the Crusade.)

- G.K. Chesterton


10 posted on 10/07/2006 6:33:04 AM PDT by Theoden (Muslims who live by the sword shall die by mine!)
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To: toon shine
It looks like, at last, Europe MAY finally be remembering.

If anyone doubts that the hate-America crowd has dominated education for a LONG time, hear this: I'm 58. I was in elementary and middle school until 1961. I was told that the Crusades were all about ignorant, superstitious, brutal, and inept Europeans forcing their barbarism and Christianity down the throats of the exotic and mysteriously attractive Muslims. Eisenhower was president, just to set all this in history, but the pinkos had already educated a crop of educators, who were busy teaching us to be embarrassed by our country and religion.

Not any more.


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11 posted on 10/07/2006 6:46:05 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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To: toon shine
Just another battle in the long struggle to protect civilization from the Dark Ages of Evil Islam. Still going on at this very moment, although the democrats are in deadly denial.


12 posted on 10/07/2006 6:53:23 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: metmom; ohioWfan; onyx; shield; LS; Quix

I am being lead by the Holy Spirit more than two weeks ago to fast and pray three days before the election. I read more about Lepanto and thats what I see what the Christians did for three days prior to the battle. Be prepared to do this and pass this on to your friends.


13 posted on 10/07/2006 6:57:57 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: metmom

It also worked during the Battle of the Bulge when Patton had prayer to remove the overcast to help relieve the city of Bastogne and the 101st Airborne surrounded by the Germans. This happened and the US warplanes were able to pound the Nazis from the sky. They were put to rout and the it was a decisive blow to the Germans. They never mounted another offensive again. My uncle's brother and mother's cousin fought there.


14 posted on 10/07/2006 7:04:07 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: metmom
Good article.
Another interesting couple of items that I remember a priest saying,
The Sultan swore that he would not stop until his horsemen could stable their horses at St.Peters in Rome.
And
When the ships were aligned for the battle, the European galleys were aligned in the shape of a cross and the Turkish galleys were aligned in the shape of a crescent.
Maybe that is why I get annoyed when some of our 9/11 memorials are crescent shaped and the intellectuals tell us this is not a Muslim symbol.
15 posted on 10/07/2006 7:24:48 AM PDT by a02001
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To: Theoden
The cold queen of England is looking in the glass...

Of course the Queen of England sent no aid. Both the Pope and the King of Spain had demanded her death in plain language.

16 posted on 10/07/2006 7:35:37 AM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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To: Theoden

Ping for later read.


17 posted on 10/07/2006 7:39:46 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Aside from abortion, perversion, sedition and corruption, what do the Democrats stand for?)
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To: toon shine

"Today, Christians quietly recall the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto"

Heh. Quietly as in "they never heard of it." How many church services will commemorate Lepanto I wonder? Anything that smacks of 'history' is dead in its tracks.


18 posted on 10/07/2006 8:05:50 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: DarthVader
I've been praying about this election now since Oct. 1. I bind all the Dems' campaigns (BY NAME), bind their financing, organizations, and GOTV. I loose the angels to work on behalf of the GOP (BY NAME, yes, even those lamebrained RINOS that don't deserve reelection). I cannot "legally" curse the Dem candidates, but I CAN and do curse their organizations, their phone banks, and all their non-human apparatus.

Folks, Darth is right: we are involved in spiritual warfare here, and while we all need to distribute lit and make phone calls, we also ALL need to pray in faith that we teach these SOBs a lesson on election day. Personally, I'm praying for GAINS in both houses.

19 posted on 10/07/2006 8:40:53 AM PDT by LS
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To: metmom

And it worked at Midway when, contrary to the movie, the scout plane DID get off on time, and flew RIGHT OVER the U.S. fleet, and mysteriously failed to see it!!


20 posted on 10/07/2006 8:42:09 AM PDT by LS
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