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5 crushed to death in collapse of overpass
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | October 2, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/02/2006 7:58:06 AM PDT by Graybeard58

LAVAL, Quebec -- At least five people were crushed to death in their cars after the collapse of an overpass near Montreal, Quebec provincial police said Sunday.

There appeared to have been some advance warning signs of trouble with the overpass in Laval, part of the Greater Montreal Area. One witness told TVA television network that he noticed the road had sunk an inch or two when he traveled over the overpass minutes before the collapse and he called emergency dispatchers.

An inspector from Transport Quebec, the province's transportation ministry, was sent to the site about 30 minutes before the tragedy but the overpass remained open. Transport Quebec spokeswoman Josee Seguin said the department heard about an hour before the accident that some pieces of concrete were falling off the overpass. She said Transport Quebec then issued an advisory to traffic reporters on the debris.

Not long after that, a 65-foot stretch of three lanes of a viaduct collapsed, sending several other vehicles crashing onto Highway 19 below.

"It is a viaduct that had never, until now, shown any signs of weakness," said Laval Mayor Gilles Vaillancourt. "It wasn't on the list of viaducts and bridges that needed to be repaired or replaced."

Seguin said the overpass was built in 1970. Vaillancourt said it had passed an inspection test last year.

The crushed cars were pulled out about 15 hours after Saturday's lunchtime accident. Firefighters and other workers used cranes and other heavy machinery to painstakingly break up the concrete into as many as 18 huge slabs.

Vehicles were crushed so badly they barely reached the knees of one firefighter.

Three people were found in one car and two other bodies were recovered from the other car trapped by the falling concrete, police spokeswoman Isabelle Gendron said.

"At this point, the rescue operation is completed," Gendron said, noting that no other vehicles were trapped beneath the concrete.

Police said six people were injured, including two who were listed in critical condition, when a minivan and a motorcyale plunged off(the overpass.

Doctors at Sacre-Coeur Hospital in Montreal said some of those injured had improved overnight but gave no further details.

Robert Hotte, one of the injured, was driving over the viaduct when the road in front of him began to disappear.

"I was wondering ... what is happening," he said. "As we went down with the bridge, my first words were to say 'Anne-Marie,' the name of my girlfriend. We went down, falling with the bridge. It was all dark/"

The vehicle crashed invo the debris below, landing on the passenger side window. The two crawled out a window, waiting for a few minutes in a police car for an ambulance to arrive and take them to the hospital.

Hotte suffered minor injuries and was released after X-rays. His girlfriend remained in the hospital in stable condition on Sunday with some internal bleeding, Hotte said.

It was the second serious overpass collapse in Laval in the last six years.

In 2000, a man died when a section of overpass vhat hcd.been under construction for six months collapsed and eight 70-ton beams fell on the car he was riding in.

A coroner's report later concluded a construction company did not properly secure the concrete beams, and accused the province's construction industry of shoddy work and questionable corporate practices.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: laval; overpass
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1 posted on 10/02/2006 7:58:07 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
An inspector from Transport Quebec, the province's transportation ministry, was sent to the site about 30 minutes before the tragedy but the overpass remained open. Transport Quebec spokeswoman Josee Seguin said the department heard about an hour before the accident that some pieces of concrete were falling off the overpass. She said Transport Quebec then issued an advisory to traffic reporters on the debris.

A major case of negligence if I ever heard of one!

2 posted on 10/02/2006 8:00:13 AM PDT by rawhide
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eight 70-ton beams fell on the car he was riding in.

That's 1,120,000 lbs.! Looks like some civil engineers need to switch careers.

3 posted on 10/02/2006 8:03:17 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: rawhide
I doubt it. Overpasses falling on their own are extremely rare. The article doesn't say that the engineer was onsite, but that he had been dispatched.
4 posted on 10/02/2006 8:08:32 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Graybeard58

I'm glad I'm not a first responder in situations like this.

The sight of mangled and smashed bodies would make me hurl - a lot.


5 posted on 10/02/2006 8:09:12 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Moonman62

From the look of the damage on TV yesterday, it was some sort of a connection failure. But now that I think about it, what else would it be?


6 posted on 10/02/2006 8:10:32 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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I don't know. I have seen cases of oveerpasses being hit by overheight trucks from below, but they still don't collapse.


7 posted on 10/02/2006 8:13:09 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Horrible way to die.


8 posted on 10/02/2006 8:14:01 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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"A coroner's report later concluded a construction company did not properly secure the concrete beams, and accused the province's construction industry of shoddy work and questionable corporate practices."

Is that what a coroner's report is for? I mean did the coroner study bridge building too? Not that he is wrong just looks like he/she may be overstepping his authoritie!

I read somewhere that there were complaints about debris falling from this and that the proper authority just said it passed inspection LAST YEAR!


9 posted on 10/02/2006 8:20:44 AM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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The photos of the crushed cars were pretty shocking. They were as flat as pancakes, about 9 inches thick.

My guess is that the people inside looked a lot like hamburger.


10 posted on 10/02/2006 8:22:19 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Dear God, what an awful thing to happen, what a horrible way to die. Prayers for the souls of those who were killed and prayers that God will comfort their families and those who survived.


11 posted on 10/02/2006 8:24:09 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: rawhide

I'd be willing to bet that the engineer on the project, the construction inspector and the contractor that did the work are all feeling rather nervous at this point.


12 posted on 10/02/2006 8:38:43 AM PDT by Icthus
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To: Disambiguator

Do the math, again.


13 posted on 10/02/2006 8:40:27 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

What did you come up with?


14 posted on 10/02/2006 8:44:36 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: BookaT
"Is that what a coroner's report is for? I mean did the coroner study bridge building too? Not that he is wrong just looks like he/she may be overstepping his authoritie!"

lol... if thats the way they do things in Quebec it's no wonder their overpasses are falling apart.
15 posted on 10/02/2006 8:52:05 AM PDT by monday
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To: BookaT

Coroners can and do hire outside consultants with the necessary expertise to make these sorts of determinations.


16 posted on 10/02/2006 8:54:54 AM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: Moonman62
I doubt it.

He means the dispatchers that issued a warning instead of closing the road.
17 posted on 10/02/2006 9:01:01 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: McGavin999

I doubt they knew what hit them and probably died instantly, as opposed to dying of some debilitating disease in bed for weeks suffering for weeks and months.


18 posted on 10/02/2006 9:01:41 AM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: Brilliant

What a brilliant and unnecessarily graphic description, Brilliant.


19 posted on 10/02/2006 9:02:41 AM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: Disambiguator; Born to Conserve
eight 70-ton beams fell on the car he was riding in.

That's 1,120,000 lbs.! Looks like some civil engineers need to switch careers.


That sounds right to me.

A ton is 2,000 pounds. Seventy tons, therefore, is (70 x 2,000 = 140,000) 140,000 pounds.

If each beam weighs 140,000 pounds, and eight fell, that would be (8 x 140,000 = 1,120,000) 1,120,000 pounds

The only thing that would change the math would be a misleading excerpt.
20 posted on 10/02/2006 9:05:10 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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