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Conservative group blasts NBC's "VeggieTales" edit
Denver Post ^ | 9/27/06 | Sandy Cohen/AP

Posted on 09/29/2006 7:11:35 AM PDT by gridlock

Los Angeles - Bob the Tomato and Larry the Cucumber always had a moral message in their long-running "Veggie-Tales" video series. But now that the vegetable stars have hit network television, they can't speak as freely as they once did, and that's got the Parents Television Council steamed.

The conservative media-watchdog group issued a statement Sept. 20 blasting NBC, which airs "VeggieTales," for editing out some references to God from the children's animated show.

"What struck me and continues to strike me is the inanity of ripping the heart and soul out of a successful product and not thinking that there will be consequences to it," said L. Brent Bozell, president of the Parents Television Council. "The series is successful because of its biblical worldview, not in spite of it. That's the signature to 'Veggie-Tales."'

"VeggieTales" is a collection of animated home videos for children that encourage moral behavior based on Christian and biblical principles. More than 50 million copies have been sold since 1993, according to Big Idea Inc., which produces the series.

Two weeks ago, NBC began airing 30-minute episodes of "VeggieTales" on Saturday mornings (9 a.m. on KUSA-Channel 9). The show was edited to comply with the network's broadcast standards, said NBC spokeswoman Rebecca Marks.

"Our goal is to reach as broad an audience as possible with these positive messages while being careful not to advocate any one religious point of view," she said.

"VeggieTales" creator Phil Vischer, who was responsible for readying episodes for network broadcast, said he didn't know until just weeks before the shows were to begin airing that nonhistorical references to God and the Bible would have to be removed.

Had he known how much he'd have to change the show - including Bob and Larry's tagline, "Remember kids, God made you special, and he loves you very much," that concludes each episode - Vischer said he wouldn't have signed on for the network deal. "I would have declined partly because I knew a lot of fans would feel like it was a sellout or it was done for money," he said, adding that "there weren't enough shows that could work well without those (religious) references." All programs set to air on NBC must meet the network's broadcast standards, said Alan Wurtzel, a broadcast standards executive.

"VeggieTales" was treated the same as any other program, he said.

"There's a fine line of universally accepted religious values," he said. "We don't get too specific with any particular religious doctrine or any particular religious denomination." Vischer said he understands the network's position.

"'VeggieTales' is religious, NBC is not," he said. "I want to focus people more on 'Isn't it cool that Bob and Larry are on television."'

Marks said the network is "committed to the positive messages and universal values" of the show and expects "Veggie-Tales" to continue airing.

But Bozell isn't satisfied.

"If NBC is so concerned about that four-letter-word God, then they shouldn't have taken 'VeggieTales,"' he said. "This just documents the disconnect between Hollywood and the real world


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To: gridlock

More proof that the Smoke of Satan rules at NBC. They are tolerant of everything--except God.


41 posted on 09/29/2006 7:56:02 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: billorites

What, you're thinking there's a little Bert and Ernie vibe there?

}:-)4


42 posted on 09/29/2006 7:56:16 AM PDT by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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To: Antoninus
More proof that the Smoke of Satan rules at NBC. They are tolerant of everything--except God.

Bunch of fish-slappers.

SD

43 posted on 09/29/2006 7:57:33 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Ninevites!

They just need to go to Tarshish. There's nothing like a cruise to clean the sand out of your wicket!

44 posted on 09/29/2006 7:58:53 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Moose4

or maybe if we start the rumor that they are gay (ala - Ernie & Burt) they will get a pass.


45 posted on 09/29/2006 7:59:46 AM PDT by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Xenalyte
I know . . . I just think there are so many intriguing things to be done with English that cliches should be avoided, and especially when they're logically inaccurate.

I noticed that line too, but it struck me as funny--not cliche.
46 posted on 09/29/2006 8:00:18 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: Oberon

Here is Phil Vischer's account of the fall of Big Idea:

http://www.philvischer.com/index.php/?p=38


47 posted on 09/29/2006 8:06:13 AM PDT by poindexters brother
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To: Antoninus

I'm one of the few who takes what I hear very literally. Logical disconnects jar me.

It's a personal problem, is what it boils down to. ;)


48 posted on 09/29/2006 8:06:18 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Viva EspaƱa!)
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To: gridlock

Do they have a spinach charachter with diarrhea?


49 posted on 09/29/2006 8:08:39 AM PDT by hoosierboy
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To: Oberon

Of course, the multi-million dollar judgment against them was the precipitating cause of the bankruptrcy, but not the only cause. BTW, the judgment was overturned by the Appeals Court. Has it been reinstated by a higher court?


50 posted on 09/29/2006 8:09:24 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: gridlock
"If NBC is so concerned about that four-letter-word God, then they shouldn't have taken 'Veggie Tales',"

NBC has no problem using the name of God or Jesus...


as long as it is used in vain, as a curse or blasphemy.

I guess NBC now has an official policy of being anti Christian. And we are supposed to accept that they have to do this because they MUST comply with their own policy. That is a non answer answer coming from their PR dept.

There is no excuse for this bigotry. Only a tiny minority of people will find Veggie Tales offensive - a lot less than are offended by the networks constant bombardment and assault of our senses with trash. That is one reason I watch very little TV.

Hypocrites. These are the same ones who scream bloody murder over the least hint of censorship if it is about complaints over their abuse of the names of God and Jesus.
51 posted on 09/29/2006 8:17:42 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: gridlock
"There's a fine line of universally accepted religious values," he said. "We don't get too specific with any particular religious doctrine or any particular religious denomination." Vischer said he understands the network's position.

If this is true, why do they continue to air the Peanuts Christmas special every year? It has very specific references to the birth of Jesus.

Also, as a side note, Veggie Tales are all based on the Old Testament.

52 posted on 09/29/2006 8:17:46 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: oust the louse

It should be obvious that vegetables reproduce vegitatively.

Some people get offended when I point out that flowers are the reproductive and genital organs of plants! Ewww!


53 posted on 09/29/2006 8:19:45 AM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: gridlock

Unbelievable.. your broadcast standards say God and referencing The Bible are bad! Unbelievable.. only an abject idiot could be offended by anything in a Veggie Tales episode.

How many dead bodies and murders a week do you broadcast NBC?

How many sexual situations?

How many foul words?

Yet you need to censor VEGGIE TALES???????

Liberals stand on their heads, and tell the world its upside down.


54 posted on 09/29/2006 8:25:06 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Disambiguator

I'll take you to the Ball Barbara Manatee!......


55 posted on 09/29/2006 8:26:52 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: donmeaker
Some people get offended when I point out that flowers are the reproductive and genital organs of plants! Ewww!

Pollen allergies are caused by plants having sex! Ewww!

56 posted on 09/29/2006 8:31:49 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: gridlock
The Super-Christians will be up in arms about this but actually it's not a bad thing.

This will expose more children to the show and then they'll want to buy/rent the other DVD's that DO have the Christian message.

See, it's all good.

57 posted on 09/29/2006 8:35:27 AM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
How does a company with a cash cow like Veggie Tales go bankrupt?

Barney did it - with the help of plaintiff's lawyeres. The company that owns the Barney products sued the company that owned Veggie Tales over a distribution deal. The resulting verdict bankrupted the Veggie Tales company, and a large multinational bought the rights to the existing shows and trademarks.

Of course, some folks won't let the truth get it the way of false accusations.

58 posted on 09/29/2006 8:36:20 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: unlearner

"Hypocrites. These are the same ones who scream bloody murder over the least hint of censorship if it is about complaints over their abuse of the names of God and Jesus."

Great point.

Unless it has sex and profanity, it doesn't make the air waves. Ridiculous.


59 posted on 09/29/2006 8:37:49 AM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: gridlock

"Our goal is to reach as broad an audience as possible with these positive messages while being careful not to advocate any one religious point of view," she said.

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Why choose a Christian program just to edit it? Regardless God will use it to speak to those watching it.


60 posted on 09/29/2006 8:38:16 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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