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CA: Bail set, plea deal offered to John Mark Karr
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 9/19/06 | Marcus Wohlsen - ap

Posted on 09/19/2006 2:52:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

One-time JonBenet Ramsey murder suspect John Mark Karr was offered a plea deal Tuesday in Sonoma County Superior Court on child pornography charges that would free him on probation.

Assistant District Attorney Joann Risse said prosecutors would waive three of the five child pornography possession charges against him if he pleaded guilty on two remaining charges.

Karr, 41, would get credit for time served and would be placed on probation for three years.

Defense lawyer Robert Amparan said he would discuss the deal with Karr, but said he still believes his client is innocent.

Amparan said the public had received a "false picture" of Karr, whom he described as a "Southern gentleman with a sense of humor."

Karr's bail was set at $200,000, after Judge Cerena Wong called him a flight risk. Karr spent several months in the Sonoma County jail in 2001 awaiting trial on the child porn charges and fled after being released.

Amparan said he did not know if his client could afford bail.

Karr, a schoolteacher, was arrested Aug. 16 after making phone calls and writing e-mails suggesting he killed Ramsey, a 6-year-old beauty queen, in her Boulder, Colo., home in December 1996. He was returned to the U.S. from Thailand only to have the Ramsey case collapse.

DNA tests failed to connect Karr to the crime, and investigators had no evidence he was even in Boulder at the time of the slaying.

Risse argued against releasing Karr.

"This defendant represents a potential threat to the children of this community," Risse said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: bail; california; johnmarkkarr; offered; pleadeal
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I can see the book title now..

How I played the system and got a 6 figure book deal.

1 posted on 09/19/2006 2:52:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Amparan said the public had received a "false picture" of Karr, whom he described as a "Southern gentleman with a sense of humor...."

...and hormonally induced breast growth.

2 posted on 09/19/2006 2:54:34 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a drowning man needs an anvil.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Amparan said the public had received a "false picture" of Karr, whom he described as a "Southern gentleman with a sense of humor."

Real funny jacka$$. This clown should at least be detained on psychiatric grounds.
3 posted on 09/19/2006 2:56:41 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: ElkGroveDan

As soon as he inks a Lifetime movie deal, he can afford that sex change op...


4 posted on 09/19/2006 2:56:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Lock up this screwball before he actually kills some innocent child.


5 posted on 09/19/2006 3:03:27 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Captain High Pants Rides Again, (or how I made an ass of the denver prosecutors and got a free ride home)


6 posted on 09/19/2006 3:14:14 PM PDT by pipecorp ( Al Lahsuchs................8(_o_)8 .................p b & j mercy is wasted on the merciless.)
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To: NormsRevenge

each image of kiddie porn is legal evidence of child rape ... way to go California, letting him walk...


7 posted on 09/19/2006 3:22:53 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: NormsRevenge

I hear that.


8 posted on 09/19/2006 3:37:26 PM PDT by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: NormsRevenge; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; JohnnyZ; Kuksool

He ought to be charged with being a 2nd Degree a$$hole. Why do I say 2nd ? Because the Boulder D.A. ought to be charged with being a 1st Degree a$$hole for buying his bull$hit story and saddling the taxpayers for his extravagant extradition transport from Asia. Anyone with a brain can figure out one or both of the Ramseys were responsible for their daughter's murder. Only the moronic liberal 'Rat D.A.'s there couldn't put 2 and 2 together.


9 posted on 09/19/2006 3:54:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Republicus2001

I wouldnt be suprised if they nominated Rose bowl queen for 2007.


10 posted on 09/19/2006 4:15:50 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: NormsRevenge

I knew it when this SOB said he killed Jonbeney when he was under arrest in Thialand he was pulling a scam. He got his sorry ass out of Thailand so the couldn't put himn in their jail. If people thought the Gulags were bad haven't looked at these peoples jail.


11 posted on 09/19/2006 4:45:14 PM PDT by snowman1
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Anyone with a brain can figure out one or both of the Ramseys were responsible for their daughter's murder. Only the moronic liberal 'Rat D.A.'s there couldn't put 2 and 2 together.

I was wondering about that too, in the beginning. However, didn't the authorities say in recent years that they have DNA evidence from the killer?? In addition, didn't they make all of the Ramseys go through DNA tests to clear them (just like DNA cleared this yahoo of being connected with the crime)?? If one of the Ramsey's killed her, then why doesn't their DNA match that of the killer?? I freely admit that I could be missing something here (we didn't even know until a few years ago that the killer left behind DNA evidence), so if I AM missing something, then let me know!!

This is a very strange case, to say the least.
12 posted on 09/19/2006 4:59:16 PM PDT by Zetman (I believe the children are the next generation.)
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So let's send his fetid ass packing back to Thailand-I'm sure they will do the right thing.


13 posted on 09/19/2006 5:17:14 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Zetman

Strange, absolutely, and perhaps one of the most (and deliberately) botched murder investigations in the past several decades. The problem with the Ramseys is that they were involved with local politics ('Rat, of course) and had links up to then-Gov. Roy Romer (another 'Rat who interestingly refused to do anything about the botched investigation), so there was one reason why they were given such incredible preferential treatment from the start (using just basic common-sense, the parents should've been the #1 suspects given the dynamics).

Add to that, the Boulder D.A. supposedly had almost zero experience with murder investigations (IIRC, her murder was the ONLY one in Boulder that particular year), something that could've been better handled by calling in experts from down the road in Denver (where murders are a frequent event).

Personally, I was one of those that believed there was some sort of sick sexual abuse going on (frankly, anyone involved in those child beauty pageants creep me out, some consider it nothing but a cover for pedophiles). Now if the father or mother themself didn't actually murder their child, they surely knew who did, and probably was someone involved with those pageants, ostensibly a "well respected" person (of whom has never been convicted of a crime, if the DNA has never been able to match an existing convicted sex offender -- assuming the DNA wasn't a plant, though I don't want to sound too conspiracy-minded here !). Of course, if it came to light, and that person was found, it might've blown open that entire nefarious community. In the end, it may only be known to God precisely what happened, but there is simply no way the parents were not directly or peripherally responsible for their child's death. Of course, now one of them is gone, and whatever the father knows, absent finding this "person", he will take it to the grave.

*One added thing, the father tried to run for the Michigan House of Representatives -- as a Republican (!) -- in 2004. Fortunately, the state party and activists were sufficiently unnerved by the guy to deny him a primary nomination.


14 posted on 09/19/2006 5:52:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Well, I hear that Boulder is a very liberal community, and nothing that happens in liberal communities surprises me anymore. In addition, I also hear that it is a fairly wealthy community. Rich liberals indulging themselves, and then covering it all up afterwards, using all means at their disposal, would not surprise me either I suppose. I shudder to think about what must happen behind closed doors in some of the ultra-wealthy, ultra-liberal communities in the San Francisco Bay area.

However, if he was so well-connected in democrat circles, and so "comfortable" living in liberal Boulder, why did John Ramsey try to run for office as a Republican in Michigan?? Seems that if he was so well-connected with such powerful dems, he should have run as one. In addition, I would think that dems would be more inclined to vote for someone like him, as opposed to Republicans.

As I said before, very strange stuff!! You are unfortunately right, we may never know what really happened.


15 posted on 09/19/2006 6:19:03 PM PDT by Zetman (I believe the children are the next generation.)
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To: Zetman

Yup, Boulder is one of those ultrarich, ultra-White, and ultra-liberal communities, and they aims to keep it that way (in every way -- especially the racial part. Rich White liberals are THE most racist group of people you'll ever meet -- if not necessarily in what they "support", but in how they act).

According to other sources, John Ramsey had moved around a bit, from Colorado, to Georgia, to Michigan. When he announced he was running for office as a Republican, a collective "WTF ?!?" came out of almost everyone's mouths. For all we know, he might've tried to do it just to embarrass and damage the party (imagine if he had been indicted for the murder -- as a sitting Republican legislator !). It was, after all, when Roy Romer finally left the Governor's office that the new Republican Governor (in 1999), Bill Owens (before he went RINO) held a press conference publicly blasting the Ramseys (though stopping short of saying straight out what many folks believed -- they were guilty as hell, but the inferrence was there).

Like you said, it just gets stranger and stranger. We just have to trust in the Lord that He will be just in rendering final judgment on the guilty parties. Only He knows where Patsy Ramsey is right now. At least we know which direction the poor, innocent JonBenet went...


16 posted on 09/19/2006 7:26:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

John Ramsey was always a Republican. It was his attorney, Hal Haddon, that was the connected-up Dem in CO.


17 posted on 09/19/2006 11:11:01 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Yeah, I'm sure he was a Republican in the same way a lot of ones that hob-nob with liberal 'Rats and give beaucoup $$ to are. A sleazy RINO.


18 posted on 09/20/2006 7:15:24 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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Oh, I believe wholeheartedly in JR's sleaziness, will not dispute that in any way, but he wasn't a Boulderite like you're thinking of.


19 posted on 09/20/2006 2:56:49 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: NormsRevenge

I DONT KNOW IF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE AWARE THAT THERE HAS BEEN ANOTHER MAN ARRESTED IN AUSTRALIA!! I AM FROM JOHN MARK KARRS HOMETOWN OF HAMILTON AL. JAMES LEROY DAVI HAS BEEN ARRESTED ON THE CHARGES OF RAPE, SEXUALL TORTURE, AND SODOMY!!! HE WAS JOHN MARK KARRS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR AND FREIND!!!! SOMETHING IS GOING ON THAT WE THE PUBLIC ARE NOT BEING MADE AWARE OF!! IT IS WAY TO COINCEDENTAL THAT A FEW WEEKS AFTER JMK ARREST THAT THEY HAVE ARRESTED JAMES LEROY DAVI!! AROUND THE SAME TIME OF J.B. DEATH JAMES LEROY DAVI TOLD PEOPLE HE WAS GOING TO TRAVEL THE COUNTRY!!!


20 posted on 09/24/2006 7:34:54 AM PDT by HAMILTONALGIRL
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