Anti-Wal-Mart warriors fueling class warfare

Concord Monitor ^ | 9/16/06 | George Will

[stephenjohnbanker]

I think if you factor in the local stores having double coupons, and weekly specials, the local stores are quite a bit cheper. I know they are for me, and I doubt that study included either one.

[ansel12]

You read your own links, they are lefties.

Most of us here are aware that the left fights tooth and nail against Walmart, so far they have kept the Walmart grocery stores out of San Diego it is what they do.

You are clearly a part of the anti Walmart movement.

Some people on this thread don't like Walmart, but they are speaking in their own words.

Your words, are the words of the Lefts activism.

You are clearly speaking from a script.

[MarkeyD]

Win-Co in Boise is the dirtiest, most discusting store(s) in the area. I price shop for everything. Win-Co may have some products that are cheaper, but in other cases they are more. I don't know where you get your facts, but Target is more expensive than Walmart on almost everything. You do live in the People's Republic of Oregon so what do you expect.

[ex-Texan]

Here is that proof you asked for about the federal government paying for WM employees health care. Statistics are from the Congress:

House Committee on Education and Workforce

[ansel12]

"Guess that is why this web site has links proving Wal-Mart's high costs and over charging?"





Good God you make my point, you link to a leftist web site.

Here is a link to another site that seriously addresses the left's attacks on Wal-Mart.

http://www.mises.org/story/2219

[ex-Texan]

"You are clearly speaking from a script . . ."

LOL, LOL, LOL ! You are getting very weird. Or wired. Drink too much coffee today?

[John D]

Here is that proof you asked for about the federal government paying for WM employees health care. Statistics are from the Congress:


And how much would the govt be paying if WM did not have any payroll. The people you are refering to are primarily part timers who would not receive health care anywhere they worked. It just looks different because WM hires more people than anyone else.

[ansel12]

"Win-Co in Boise is the dirtiest, most discusting store(s) in the area. I price shop for everything. Win-Co may have some products that are cheaper, but in other cases they are more. I don't know where you get your facts, but Target is more expensive than Walmart on almost everything. You do live in the People's Republic of Oregon so what do you expect."







This poster is an anti Walmart activist, his interest isn't related to the facts of the store, as it relates to the consumer.

His interest in Walmart is as a political issue, attacking Walmart is a way to further a larger agenda.

[SheLion]

Gabz, did you see this one?

[MarkeyD]

ex-Texan obviously has an axe to grind. He's obviously a not so clandestine Dem trying to make a point.

[John D]

This poster is an anti Walmart activist, his interest isn't related to the facts of the store, as it relates to the consumer.

His interest in Walmart is as a political issue, attacking Walmart is a way to further a larger agenda.



Well liberals will be liberals. If something is good for the US it is bad for them and they could not have that.

[MarkeyD]

You beat me to it. See my post 70.

[ansel12]

In post 59, ex-texan gives a link to WakeupWalmart.com, here is a CNN headline mentioning ex-texans "grassroots" movement.


"Unions launch bus tour against Wal-Mart
WakeupWalmart.com tours 35 cities to protest No. 1 retailer's practices"

[ex-Texan]

The truth is often found in the most inconvenient places. That web site you linked avoids the whole question of employee health care. The writer deals with the issue as a philosophical matter. He takes the position that employers have no duty to provide any benefits to workers. That may have been true in the early 1900's. That is not true today. Most employers offer decent wages and health care benefits. WM elects to provide the minimum.

I take the simple position that WM is allowing the government to provide health care benefits. Guess that is why WM's CEO has been on the news and in television ads talking about these issues? He must be worried about people learning the truth.

[MarkeyD]

My favorite story was about some Walmart protesters that were being paid by a union, and of course, these protesters got paid less than the average Walmart employee and had no medical coverage.

[spinestein]

[First, by the appearance of the store. It looked dirty. The floors appeared unwashed. Second: Those hokey signs with happy faces turned me off totally. The high prices on those signs really freaked me out. I kept asking myself, "Why do people shop here? Prices are lower at Target." Third:People are opposing new WM stores in Oregon. This is grass roots movement.]


Understand that I'm not accusing you or your motives and I take your criticism of WalMart at face value as your honest belief, but the above statements don't make sense to me. I've never been in (nor heard of) a WalMart with dirty floors or higher prices than the competition, but perhaps the one store you're familiar with in Oregon is the exception. But the idea that the opposition to WalMart is a "grass roots movement" is completely implausible. I did check out the link you provided and it went to a website that was an activist anti-WalMart site and the story it showed was of 50 people in Portland protesting a proposed new store and it looked exactly like every other contrived union protest I've ever seen. It was obviously a preplanned, organized union event with almost as many speakers as "protesters". It certainly was not a spontaneous event precipitated by people angry over anything WalMart had done to them.

There is a lot of wealth and power available to those willing to exploit feelings of class envy and engage in anti-capitalist rhetoric, and as long as enough compassionate people are gullible enough to believe in it and donate money to their causes and vote for their candidates then they'll continue to do so.

[freedumb2003]

The fight over WalMarts seems to be a matter of wealthy folks trying to pull down the preferred merchant of the less affluent people

First rule of Liberalism: Never EVER try to influence events that might hurt YOU. Always, ALWAYS try to influence events will hurt those you are supposedly speaking for.

[ansel12]

Here is an article by ex-texans "grassroots" group wakeupwalmart.com





Monday, July 31, 2006
Are You On the Bus or Off the Bus?
From WakeUpWalMart:

19 States, 35 Cities, 35 Days
1 Mission
Change Wal-Mart and Change America
That’s right. Starting tomorrow, for 35 straight days, WakeUpWalmart.com is taking its national movement, and our headquarters, on the road in a non-stop, cross-country bus tour hitting 19 states and 35 cities in 35 days. The tour is an exciting and unprecedented move in our campaign to change Wal-Mart and build a grassroots movement to stop big, powerful corporations from taking America in the wrong direction.

So, for the next 840 hours, 6 over-caffeinated Americans and one really big 45-foot long bus (nicknamed Smiley) are going from New York City to Seattle to fight for good jobs, more affordable health care, and a better life for all hard-working families. Click here to get on board the bus and join our fight for a better America:

http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/tour/rsvp/

The fight to change Wal-Mart is already being referred to as one of the “hottest, highest stakes political contests in America.” And, our national bus tour will be no exception. At several stops, we will be joined by some of our nation's best and most passionate political leaders like John Edwards, former Vice Presidential candidate and U.S. Senator.

With over 248,000 Americans, WakeUpWalMart.com is standing up to rich, powerful corporations like Wal-Mart and spreading the word that it is time for Wal-Mart to do what is right instead of shipping U.S. jobs overseas and not providing affordable health care. In town halls, public squares, and at state fairs, we will be hitting the streets to take our fight for a better America directly to the American people.

Will you join the most exciting grassroots movement and help us fight for a better America? Click here to RSVP to the 2006 Change Wal-Mart, Change America tour stop in your town:

http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/tour/rsvp/

Over the next 35 days, we will be sending you emails from the road and updating our website every day with photos, videos, funny tidbits and upcoming event details. If you don’t want to miss any part of the tour, be sure to check back often.

Most importantly, sign more people up to the campaign. We have set a goal of signing up at least 25,000 new supporters over the next 35 days. Please do everything you can to recruit at least 5 more friends.

If nothing else proves the power ordinary people have to do extraordinary things, just look last week at what happened in the city of Chicago. Despite Wal-Mart’s enormous efforts to defeat a living wage bill, the Chicago City council set a new bar for what it means to be a responsible corporate citizen and passed a living wage for working families.

A living wage in Chicago is a testament to the power you have to change a $300 billion company, to change corporate America, and to change the world we live in. But, change begins by joining together. I hope you will join with us and our 248,000 supporters as we go across the country to fight for a better America.

Thank you for all that you do,
Paul Blank, WakeUpWalMart.com

[MarkeyD]

Looks like this Paul Blank is a former political director for the Howard Dean campaign. That explains a lot.Here

[ex-Texan]

I take the simple position that WM is allowing the government to provide health care benefits.

The irony here is that I'm opposing a company requiring employees to go on Medicaid. You are taking the exact opposite point of view. Apparently, you people believe all companies ought to require workers to get their health care from the government. And then you allege that I'm a liberal?

That is an example of a bunch liberal kettles is calling the one conservative pot black!