[Earthdweller]

"Which I would think would lead one to a point that it's not possible to talk this through with Iran."

You are talking about the "leadership" of Iran...not it's Muslim population.

OBL attacked America first for a reason. It is because Americans give Muslim populations hope for freedom and moderation. Europeans have only wanted to "dominate" and "rule" the ME "savages" and "barbarians".

[saveliberty]

I think the Pope's argument was about Islam. This does not say that there aren't Muslims who want freedom-- that in itself is at the very heart of the battle. Because the existence of freedom undermines the house of Islam, which translated means submission.

There are two houses- the house of Islam and the house of war. The theory goes that it's possible to be a non muslim and belong to the house of Islam, but one must submit or else belong to the house of war. I would like to ask where it's possible for one who is Jewish to be a citizen in the ME. Although Israel accepts Muslims as citizens.

[saveliberty]

I am sorry. You know more than I do.

I retract my remarks.