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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-13-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 09-13-06

Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^ | September 13, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:43:18 AM CDT by GMMAC

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think

Ottawa Citizen September 13, 2006

COMMENTARY: DAVID WARREN

Listening to President Bush speak, on Monday's anniversary of 9/11, after a day of distastefully sentimental memorials, my question was not what have we achieved in the last five years, but rather, what have we learned? Bush and Blair -- the captain and vice-captain of Team West in the war against "the terrorists" so far -- are both now in the twilight of their political careers. Both have recently broken with habitual discretion, and made attempts to name the enemy. This has, if anything, added to their unpopularity, for when they mention that the enemy presents himself as Islamic, there are shrill cries not only from radical Muslims, but across the spectrum of the Left in the West.

Mr Bush, much the less eloquent of the two, has now retreated from his use of the term "Islamofascist" -- which as I said in a previous column, is a fairer label than "Islamist" for an enemy that spreads a palampore of traditional Islam, over a stuffing from the Western-bred totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century. As I wrote Aug. 27, from Ahmadinejad to Zawahiri, we hear rhetoric that uses an Islamic vocabulary and crude grammar, but animated with a syntax that owes more to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, than to the Prophet and his traditional interpreters. The term is thus meant to suggest a skewed Islam, an Islam "adapted to our age" by psychopathic men, whose own Islamic learning is purposefully politicized, and aggressively de-spiritualized. Since the alternative would be to say that Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, et al. do speak legitimately for Islam, I don't see why anyone should object to the term "Islamofascist".

Mr Blair gave an interview worth reading to the Israeli daily, Haaretz, published Monday. The editors present characterized it as "sombre". The British prime minister was still going through the motions of advocating the "peace process", and the "two-state solution" for Israel and Palestine, without (according to me) any real conviction that it could work. It is just something Western politicians do to please the figurative "Arab street", and it does not please anyone, any more. With much more conviction, he said leaders throughout the West have grasped that we are in a truly "global struggle", for which the people of the West are not prepared. The politicians have failed to explain to us how much is at stake, and how much will be lost if we are not resolute in defence of Western values.

For all its uncharacteristic awkwardness, Mr Blair's answer to a question about British home-grown terrorists donged the bell:

"It's not necessarily what have we done wrong, because part of the problem of what you have in Western opinion is that Western opinion always wants to believe that it's our fault and these people want to have a sort of, you know, grievance culture that they visit upon us and say it's our fault. And so we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living. Now, that warped mind has grown out of a global movement based on a perversion of Islam which we have to confront, and we have to confront it globally."

I frankly admire both Bush and Blair, as courageous politicians, with open minds, doing their best within the limits of what is politically possible in their respective spheres. They are both towering figures, in comparison to the little men who oppose them. We won't know what trouble is, until the little men replace them.

I continue optimistic about what can be done, should we summon the will to do it. I have written repeatedly that a robust and unified Western response to "Islamofascism" could fling it quickly onto the trash-heap of history, to join Nasserism and Baathism and other earlier manifestations of Arab nationalism and socialism. Smack it hard, without apology.

My pessimism is founded in the fear that this robust and unified response cannot be mobilized. We have a huge fifth column in the West, and it is not the Muslim immigrants. They become radicalized only because our "victim culture" encourages them to nurture their grievances. Yet most, despite temptation, remain good, decent people, doing their share of the West's work.

Our real enemy is within us, in the immense constituency of the half-educated narcissists pouring from our universities each year -- that glib, smug, liberal, and defeatist "victim culture" itself, that inhabits the academy, our media, our legal establishment, the bureaucratic class. The opinion leaders of our society, who live almost entirely off the avails of taxation, make their livelihoods biting the hands that feed them, and undermining the moral order on which our solidarity depends.


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To: Mad Dash; All
Jim Moran looks very clintonesque.

What?
He's got a cheesburger in one hand, an intern in the other, and a crazed wife throwing a plate at his head?...
641 posted on 09/13/2006 11:49:09 AM PDT by ct_libertarian ("Who Is John Galt?" Ayn Rand)
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To: rodguy911
This will be "the" call for Rush's show today. She is awesome, also shows the rats for what they are political hacks and traitors

But I thought that it was Bush who made 9/11 partisan.

/sarc
642 posted on 09/13/2006 11:50:19 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (If you speak against your own, you have chosen the wrong side.)
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To: ct_libertarian

ping


643 posted on 09/13/2006 11:50:29 AM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: ct_libertarian

LOL...libertarians have a sense of humor...Oh, to my suprise!


644 posted on 09/13/2006 11:51:44 AM PDT by aligncare (In warfare, the only moral stance is to win)
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To: Miss Marple
Rush played a little of Tony on one of the TV morning shows. Tony really just made the a fool out of the interviewers. Tony simply would not accpet the "Attack the Republicans" premise of the interviewer and the guy could not take the hint to back off. Really looked stupid insisting he did not want to talke about Democrats.

Classic Tony, calm cool collected, never raised his voice. Perfect delivery.

645 posted on 09/13/2006 11:52:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Rove made me do it!)
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To: khnyny

And on the way they're affecting law with the ACLU and the Islamic Lawyer Organizations. If you knew the increase of muslims in law schools over the last ten years...

They took a poll of Detroit mosque in a study in 2004:

On page 37 of the report is this:

Mosque participants were asked, whether they agree or disagree with the statement, "Shari'ah should be the law of the land in Muslim countries?" Shari'ah refers to Islamic law.
Apply Islamic Law in Muslim Lands
Strongly Agree — 59%
Somewhat Agree — 22%
Somewhat Disagree — 8%
Strongly Disagree — 3%
Don't Know — 8%

If accurate, this is extremely disturbing. It means, in effect, that most survey participants oppose democracy in Iraq and elsewhere in the Islamic world, and want to see Sharia oppression of women and non-Muslim dhimmis instituted throughout Muslim lands.

It also raises questions, unanswered by the survey, about what kind of government these survey participants would like ultimately to see in the United States.

But this is what the press sold it as:

Bagby’s study received fair media coverage and some headlines dutifully reflected the official line:

• Detroit Free Press: “Muslims' goals: Be active, be moderate.”

• Detroit News: “Metro Muslims eschew radicalism: Study shows most hold moderate views, want to integrate.”

• Scripps Howard News Service: “Survey Finds Muslims are Moderates.”

In addition, before the study’s release, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the leading militant Islamic organization in the United States, trumpeted the results on its website; and its spokesman, Ibrahim Hooper, lost no time exploiting the alleged results of Bagby’s study. One article describes him pointing “to a new survey of the views of mosque leaders and congregants in Detroit … as an example of the fundamental moderation of U.S. Muslims.”

---Moderate? 81%?


646 posted on 09/13/2006 11:52:19 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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To: ct_libertarian
The police were called to his house (at least once) for a "domestic disturbance." He had one woman in his house, and another outside throwing a violent tantrum. It was in the paper. That's N. VA - the people still voted for this ass-hat. He and Bubba share similar characteristics.
647 posted on 09/13/2006 11:52:37 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: Pyro7480

True, but she probably thought it! LOL!


648 posted on 09/13/2006 11:52:40 AM PDT by MarkLevinFan
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To: aligncare
This one does, yes.
You should check out some of my other posts.
649 posted on 09/13/2006 11:52:51 AM PDT by ct_libertarian ("Who Is John Galt?" Ayn Rand)
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To: ct_libertarian
He's got a cheesburger in one hand, an intern in the other, and a crazed wife throwing a plate at his head?...

LOL! I was thinking of the red nose and stupid grin...

650 posted on 09/13/2006 11:53:09 AM PDT by Mad Dash
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To: khnyny; ct_libertarian

Someone should tell Rush about this story too.


651 posted on 09/13/2006 11:53:48 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: holdonnow

ping


652 posted on 09/13/2006 11:54:27 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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To: MarkLevinFan

I noticed that you're a member of the Delaware Conservative Bloggers Alliance, when I looked up someone I know from my church who is a member of the alliance. ;-)


653 posted on 09/13/2006 11:54:44 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480

What did she call them, creeps?


654 posted on 09/13/2006 11:55:35 AM PDT by MarkLevinFan
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To: AliVeritas

Radical moslems will kill you. Moderate moslems will just let it happen.


655 posted on 09/13/2006 11:55:39 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: All

Did everyone read #520?


656 posted on 09/13/2006 11:56:35 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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To: FaithintheRight
Non muslims are allowed to survive if they can be of useful benefit to the Muslim conquerors as slaves, dhimmis, harem/breeding females and males, soldiers, ad nauseum. The Balkan peoples are quite familiar with this survival "alternative"...and have long memories of such terrors.

To allow for an "interpretation of the Koran" is to give these beasts too much credit...they are simply cultists...hateful murderers who stop at nothing to fulfill selfish inhuman passions.
657 posted on 09/13/2006 11:56:47 AM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: MarkLevinFan

Not when she was there with Moran, but she did call them something when she was talking to Rush. I'll check it out on 24/7 soon.


658 posted on 09/13/2006 11:57:00 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: MNJohnnie
MOTHER OF MISSING CHILD KILLS SELF AFTER TV GRILLING

Two weeks after telling police that her son had been snatched from his crib, Melinda Duckett found herself reeling in an interview with TV's famously prosecutorial Nancy Grace. Before it was over, Grace was pounding her desk and loudly demanding to know: "Where were you? Why aren't you telling us where you were that day?" A day after the taping, Duckett, 21, shot herself to death, deepening the mystery of what happened to the boy.

CNN's Nancy Grace: 'I do not feel our show is to blame'...

I have always detested Nancy Grace. She claims to be a lawyer. Yet, she blames people with no evidence. Now we have a death. I lay the blame on her, She has blood on her hands. Grace is despicable human trash.

659 posted on 09/13/2006 11:57:10 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Forth Century)
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To: Pyro7480

Yes, they're a good bunch of folks!


660 posted on 09/13/2006 11:57:38 AM PDT by MarkLevinFan
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