Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie
I had to sign-on to this thread to point out that Rush is missing the vital point that this Muslim woman is getting away with.
She says the terrorists are not Muslims because the Koran says "do not kill innocent People."
The point Rush is missing is: "Define innocent people."
I really hate his guts. He thinks he's so brilliant, and he's so smug and impressed wit himself, but the truth is, on any real one on one debate against any average conservative, he'd be ripped to shreads. That's why he only talks one on one with other liberals who let him spew whatever he wants unchecked, or stacks the decks of his shows with mostly liberals, and when there is a cosnervative, it's just one, and the others and him talk over them. He's a coward who knows his positions are weak and can't be defended so he never engages in fair dialogue with someone who knows the facts, because he could never win a fair debate on the issues. He's Bill Maher just a pathetic sub-standard commedian who couldn't make it in the real world so he has to pretend to be the smartest person int he room with one liners and quips, never letting himself be REALLY responded to. I'd LOVE a piece of him one on one on live tv. I'd verbally disembowl him in about ten minutes. Scum bag.
Prosecutorial misconduct. Hope he gets charged.
Rove made you do it.
I get yelled at here when I voice my opinion of all things islam.
I am sorry but i MUST ask bc I see the reference to "Poms" nearly everyday and have googled it.
Are you referring to cheerleaders, dogs, etc.???
Please let me in on the Pom joke if I am deemed worthy.
I love the FReeper lingo, thanks in advance.
New Tagline time.
Yes. I'm reading a book about Islam right now (written by the Caner brothers, who converted from Islam to Christianity 25 years ago, and know whereof they speak). Among other things, the Quran directs Muslims to offer their intended targets a chance to convert to Islam. Anyone who refuses becomes a legitimate target for forcible conversion or death.
Darn, work calls. I'll listen on the car radio for the rest of the show.
Other way around IIRC. IRA got tips from Black September.
Here? FR or work?
An article titled "A Guide to the Perplexed about the Permissibility of Killing Prisoners" says Islamic scholars present five approaches drawn from various interpretations of the Quran:
A polytheist prisoner must be killed. No amnesty may be granted to him, nor can he be ransomed.
All infidel polytheists and the People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians) are to be killed. They may not be granted amnesty, nor can they be ransomed.
Amnesty and ransom are the only two ways to deal with (surviving) prisoners.
Amnesty and ransom are possible only after the killing of a large number of prisoners.
The Imam, or someone acting on his behalf, can choose between killing, amnesty, ransom or enslaving the prisoner.
The author indicates the last option as his preference, explaining that Islam's prophet, Muhammad, had dealt with prisoners in different ways to maximize the benefits to Muslims. He gives examples of methods with which Muhammad had chosen to kill, grant amnesty and ransom prisoners.
The article was a reaction, the author said, to criticism by Muslims that had "torn his heart," concerning the execution of nine Russian prisoners after the government had refused to surrender "one of Russia's biggest criminals and crooks."
According to the author, the Chechens have executed prisoners not because of their heart's desire, but because they have seen a benefit for the Muslims in such an act.
Some critics have argued, the author notes, that no one should be punished for the sins of others. He insists, however, that Allah permits the killing of a prisoner because he is a prisoner and all the more so if one's killing for the sins of others serves an important Islamic interest, as well as a deterrent to the enemy.
No Sale, lady.
And the Democrats really think they're going to win the election and pick up seats. How do they expect to do that when the most prevalent conduit for liberal political speech is going under like that. I think this is very telling and DIRECTLY correlates to the election in November. Most people listen to and agree with conservative talk radio and hardly anyone listens to liberal talk radio, and that isn't an anomaly. That IS the best poll on what people think and how the election will go. Republicans will maintain their majority or pick up seats in one or both Houses. Bank on it.
Just for research, here is the first eight verses in Sura 9.. Like you always hear about the Bible, you can prove anything with a single verse. It is good to put it into context.. (note, I'm not defending or agreeing with her, just posting for research..)
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/9/index.htm
9:1 Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty.
9:2 Travel freely in the land four months, and know that ye cannot escape Allah and that Allah will confound the disbelievers (in His Guidance).
9:3 And a proclamation from Allah and His messenger to all men on the day of the Greater Pilgrimage that Allah is free from obligation to the idolaters, and (so is) His messenger. So, if ye repent, it will be better for you; but if ye are averse, then know that ye cannot escape Allah. Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve,
9:4 Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him).
9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful
9:6 And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not.
9:7 How can there be a treaty with Allah and with His messenger for the idolaters save those with whom ye made a treaty at the Inviolable Place of Worship ? So long as they are true to you, be true to them. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty.
9:8 How (can there be any treaty for the others) when, if they have the upper hand of you, they regard not pact nor honour in respect of you ? They satisfy you with their mouths the while their hearts refuse. And most of them are wrongdoers.
Liberals are the largest example of dysfunctional I've ever seen.
My volume goes up during commercials but otherwise things are normal..
Sounds like I missed a good show yesterday.
Yep, did you see how many states had their law enforcement go through sensitivity training... through CAIR?
The female caller, claiming to be a Moslem, is a liar.
The religion has not been hijacked. 50% of Al Jazeera watchers are for UBL.
Limbaugh bought her slimy comments. The "innocents" she claims are not targets.....what's HER definition of just what an 'innocent' is???
Won't be part of "...setting a new tone in Washington."
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