Can the GOP Be Saved? Perhaps

Human Events ^ | September. 5, 2006 | PATRICK J. BUCHANAN

[bybybill]

more fun to just complain

[WoofDog123]

"more fun to just complain"

why do you think this is fun? I do not think that every political discussion has to end with an 'answer,' particularly if that answer is based in fantasy so farfetched that it requires suspension of disbelief to consider. History and life are both full of examples where there were no practical (read - actually politically doable) options available in situations which became subsequently worse, and we are in the middle of one right now.

It is critical to understand that the immigration problem is going to change the face of the US in the current generation, and that discussion of this topic on message boards is perfectly reasonable and normal, and some of those discussing it aren't under the impression that they can somehow find a realistically implementable answer to the issue.

Or to put it another way, what is your solution to the current impasse, and how do you realistically see it being implemented?

[Kenny Bunk]

Classic case of what's needed at home, which is strict border control and an end to illegal immigration (not quite the same thing) vs. our foreign policy.

I have become convinced that what is driving the Bush immigration policy for Mexico, or the lack thereof, is the fear that if, or perhaps more likely, when Mexico implodes, the rush for the border will truly become a huge tidal wave of illegal immigration, dwarfing today's huge tidal wave!

So, reasons our leader, we had better keep that "Safety Valve" open for as long as possible to prevent what's happening in Mexico right now, from REALLY happening. And, we had better keep those Wal-Mart Money Orders flowing, too.

In re Santorum, good luck to him. fine man. But if it's a close one, he had better pray for an election at least as straight as Mexico's. Which, of course is unlikely in any state run by Fast Eddie.

[bybybill]

America is an amazing place and we have the ability to change, sometimes very quickly. Illegal immigration helps very few and hurts almost everybody. My "solution" is to first force solutions, to make all of us realize that this is a problem that must be addressed now. It starts with stopping new illegals without wrecking the economy and that means a fence and more Border Patrol/troops at the border. Punish the ones that get caught and send all of them home after jail time here. Then cut off the employment opportunities for the illegals by issuing a National ID card that can only be used for employment issues. Then a guest worker program with proof of employment a requirement for entry into the US. Finally, and I`m not afraid of the word, some sort of amnesty program for those that are already here. Nothing is going to get done if tossing out all of them is part of the deal.
Will it work? Think it has a chance if we work together. Or, we can be Tancredo lemmings and stop any positive changes cause we aren`t getting our way.

[staytrue]

gas is 2.33 at the get go in columbus at bethel and sawmill.

[Welike ike]

I agree byby. Buchanan is a joke for appearing on the Dimwitted " McGlaughlin Group" where the Host has been predicting GOP Gloom since 1996

[Welike ike]

Right freedom because there is no pressure out of power. If the GOP loses the House, they will not get it back for 20 years. Then the Conservatives can play Barry Goldwater electoral politics once again and be irrelevant.

[Welike ike]

Staytrue, I predict Terrorism and Gas Prices will be the focus of Election day 2006.

[attiladhun2]

If the "patriots" who flap their jowls in the wind talking about the need for a secure border would have voted for Buchanan, then border security would not be an issue and the last 10 million illegals wouldn't be swarming all over our great land like maggots on a rotting carcass

If we all would have voted for Buchanan, Clinton would still have been elected President and I think it is unlikely Buchanan could have defeated either Gore or Lurch, so stop littering the ground with red herrings, they really begin to stink like troll when they've been in the sun awhile.

[AppleButter]

Full employment and wage increases of 7% AFTER inflation for the first half of 06, to say nothing of 4.25% GNP growth has us "treading water?"

Maybe the RICH are getting 7% wage increases, but the MIDDLE CLASS has had negative real wage growth since 2003.

[AppleButter]

After the Republicans "get creamed", I suppose that the Rats will solve the illegal immigration problem.

No, they will make it WORSE in the short run, which will anger the populace so much that things will get BETTER in the long run.

However, maybe the new Congress,in Republican control and with a lot of input from voters, might do a better job.

Not a snowball's chance in Hell. You know the old saying, "The definition of insanity is doing the same old thing and expecting different results." As long as the internationalist Republicrats are elected back into office, they'll keep working to replace America's middle class with a Third World substitute better suited to their corporate goals.

[bybybill]

So,your plan to stop the illegals is to have the Republicans lose, and you are hoping that things will get so bad that the voters will smarten up, realize their error, and make Tom Tancredo King.
Mind if we try a different way first.

[MikeA]

Wrong. That increase in income was across ALL income groups. These were WAGES, not investment income. Additionally, during the same period hourly wage growth was up significantly. Stop buying into the DNC/Buchananite propaganda which reads off the same script these days.

[mugs99]

Lol...that's a long way from me!

[bybybill]

Thats my problem with Pat, I`ve read his stuff. His attacks on "King George" helped bring us Bubba. His idea that we shouldn`t trade with other countries, his opposition to the Iraq War, coupled with his scare mongering on almost everything leave me cold. Its sad cause, before he thought people would vote for him, he was a hero.

[freedomfiter2]

If the GOP loses the House, they will not get it back for 20 years. Then the Conservatives can play Barry Goldwater electoral politics once again and be irrelevant.



You're right. The House has been the only place that conservatives have gotten any respect after election day. If the GOP loses control anywhere it's because they haven't been in tune with the party faithful. Over all, libs in the GOP have done less harm when the Dems were in control. The solution though is to hold control and replace Rinos when possible. Very little positive can be accomplished as a minority.

[MikeA]

Read the Wall Street Journal. They report on this information all the time. http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_econindicators_jobspict_20060707