Irwin video may be made public

I don't think that's long enough for someone like Steve Irwin to believe he's dying. He knew he got hit, he reacted, and it didn't matter.

You are probably right. And I am glad about that.

101 posted on 09/04/2006 10:19:29 PM PDT by Dianna

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102 posted on 09/04/2006 10:31:08 PM PDT by Rte66

As a cautionary tale... a HECKUVA cautionary tale....

103 posted on 09/04/2006 10:36:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck

To: Aussie Dasher

Thanks, but I'll stick to him jumping onto the backs of crocs, climbing trees to snag a frog, or jumping into a mud pit to tackle a wild pig.

104 posted on 09/04/2006 10:40:53 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I see storms on the horizon.")

To: Aussie Dasher

My reading of Steve's personality, values and inclinations is that

Steve would want it shown--it's REAL--and, as he said in one clip on the Animal Channel--he'd want such a thing shown to show that the animal was not at fault.

105 posted on 09/04/2006 10:41:41 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)

Maybe but it still makes me very uneasy...

106 posted on 09/05/2006 12:21:35 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)

To: Aussie Dasher

I wouldn't label it a young kids' Sunday School video.

It's likely a horrible scene.

But if I understand Steve and his values . . . HIS PREFERENCE would be to show it for all the raw truth educational value that might be in it.

Can we honor and love him more than to follow his preferences in his death?

I don't have an easy answer. I just have a sense about what Steve would say and I have so much respect for him that I'm inclined to say, why not.

I often wondered about his wound-up tone and theatrics but I understand now and began to some time ago--that THAT WAS JUST STEVE. What you saw was what you got. I respect that a great lot.

Apart from all that and maybe congruent with it--I think there's something realllllly screwy about our media and culture when we glorify phoney chain saw massacre and FRIDAY 13 movies to the max . . . and then get squeamish about the realities of life that folks REALLY NEED MORE blunt awareness of and far less denial of--including drunk driving results; spousal abuse facts and results; gang war results etc.

AS a shrink, I'd bet that showing the last moments of Steve's life would do a LOT toward protecting more lives around sting rays as well as respecting rays more. I think Steve would feel very proud of those results of showing the video.

107 posted on 09/05/2006 12:31:32 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)

Yes, if his wife is OK with showing it, or if it helps people respect wild animals and their capabilities, I guess that's alright, but I'll probably still do my best to personally avoid it...I don't wish to see his death.

108 posted on 09/05/2006 5:26:03 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)

On the one hand, the urge to produce this video is no different from any other snuff porno.

This video isn't "snuff porno." It's raw documentary footage of a fatal accident in the wild.

"Snuff porno" involves murder.

109 posted on 09/05/2006 5:37:04 AM PDT by Chunga (Mock The Left)

Even though I don't think I could watch (it would be like watching a family member die) I DO understand how Steve would think about it and if that is what he wants, it is OK with me if shown in the right context.

110 posted on 09/05/2006 6:13:39 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)

To: Aussie Dasher

I think the tapes ought to be destroyed. There's no reason to grandstand his death.

111 posted on 09/05/2006 6:16:56 AM PDT by al_c

This video isn't "snuff porno."

Technically, maybe not.

That wasn't my point.

I said, "...the urge to produce this video is no different..."

Innocent "raw documentary footage" or not, the motivation to want to broadcast such a meritless display of death is the same base, low level motivation. It's "Faces of Death: Australia."

That it's an accidental death by an animal doesn't say anything about the people that are eager to get the widow's approval "in a few days" after her "grievin" is all done. Don Henley lyrics come to mind.

112 posted on 09/05/2006 6:34:14 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)

apparently he stated if he was killed,he wanted the video shown,a bit over the top if you ask me

113 posted on 09/05/2006 6:45:13 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)

Steve's producer and friend just said on Larry King Live that he wants the tape destroyed.

114 posted on 09/05/2006 7:06:17 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)

Perhaps to some sensibilities.

But, it was his life. Ought he not have some say in such a video?

115 posted on 09/05/2006 7:19:09 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)

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