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Laffer Throws Curve with Latest Theory
American Economic Alert ^ | Tuesday, August 29, 2006 | Alan Tonelson

Posted on 09/02/2006 7:09:11 PM PDT by A. Pole

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To: kenavi
17th C. Spain was not a free-market system, dont'cha know?

Two questions.

Can you give me the examples of "free-market systems" from the past?

Is USA "a free-market system"?

41 posted on 09/02/2006 10:33:18 PM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: Common Tator
It has to be the latter... Not even the Chinese are going to sell us stuff and never cash the check.

We but Chinese crap with our dollars, they in turn buy oil with those dollars. The Saudi's, Kuwaiti's etc ... take that money and buy oil extraction equipment, ships, real estate and stocks in the USA with that money.

One way or the other our dollars come back.

42 posted on 09/02/2006 10:36:42 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Property tax is feudalism. Income taxes are armed robbery of the minority by the majority.)
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To: bpjam
Its all about Oil. If you take oil of this of 'trade deficit' nonsense, we end up with a trade surplus in the tens of billions each month.

And how "you take the oil our of" this?

The second biggest reason would be the incredibly cheap manufacturing costs in China

If "its all about Oil", then you cannot have "second biggest reason" like that.

Its a net plus for the US consumer and the economy since the vast majority of the profit is being made here in the US.

In the SHORT term perhaps.

43 posted on 09/02/2006 10:38:32 PM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: ChessExpert

Actually, New World gold ruined Spain's economy, by inducing hyperinflation. Additionally, it undercut domestic economies (who needs to work when everybody's a millionaire?), but it funded other economies, especially in France and Italy. Gold was to Spain, what oil ultimately will be to Saudi Arabia. Spain is worse off for having had it.


44 posted on 09/02/2006 10:42:21 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: cibco
Glad to see you are off the floor

I am drawn to people with names like "Laffer".

45 posted on 09/02/2006 10:42:52 PM PDT by llevrok (When you take my gin from my cold, dead hand....)
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To: cibco

ARTIST: Sam Cooke
TITLE: Another Saturday Night
Lyrics and Chords


{Refrain}
Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
I've got some money 'cause I just got paid
Now, how I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in an awful way


46 posted on 09/02/2006 10:46:36 PM PDT by llevrok (When you take my gin from my cold, dead hand....)
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To: Alter Kaker
Additionally, [New World gold] undercut domestic economies

How different it is from USA dollar being the world currency?

47 posted on 09/02/2006 10:47:27 PM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: llevrok
Cripple our economy and the world's economy goes away.

Are you really from Moldova?

48 posted on 09/02/2006 10:49:12 PM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: A. Pole

btttt


49 posted on 09/02/2006 10:50:06 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: ChessExpert

And why is Kia opening that plant? Why did Honda open a plant here? Why does Honda make large displacement motorcycles here instead of making them in Japan and importing them? The "T" word maybe?


50 posted on 09/02/2006 10:56:40 PM PDT by TopDog2 (Onward Christian soldiers...)
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To: keithtoo
When I trade a vending machine $1.00 for a soda, we both come out even.

Actually, you both come out ahead.

For a dollar, you get something you value more: a coke.

For a coke, the machine gets something it values more: a dollar.

51 posted on 09/03/2006 12:02:09 AM PDT by Erasmus (It takes branes to make an alternate universe!)
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To: llevrok

LOL!! Thanks..


52 posted on 09/03/2006 1:31:54 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: Common Tator
What do you think happens with our trade deficit? They give us goods and we give them paper.

Paper that they are using to buy oil, material, finance armies with, etc.

53 posted on 09/03/2006 3:12:59 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: theBuckwheat

the voice of reason spoken by a person with data to support an arguement - you will go far grasshopper.


54 posted on 09/03/2006 5:24:20 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: hedgetrimmer

The domestic economy is looking sickly right now? Compared to what!? Of course, there had to be a slowing, the American economy recently has been the greatest, most robust and healthy national economy the world has EVER known! Please explain yourself.


55 posted on 09/03/2006 6:49:00 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon
the American economy recently has been the greatest, most robust and healthy national economy the world has EVER known!

The American economy is being looted by the "free traders" who are using American taxpayer money through USAID and internationalist institutions like the World Bank, the IMF, the WTO, the inter-American development bank, the UN, the OAS and a multitude of other groups, and through direct wealth redistribution via outsourcing, offshoring,and foreign direct investment to expand THEIR markets for THEIR private gain. Do you not see how this affects the US and the freedom of its citizens? It has made us slaves to the global economy, because it cannot exist without stealing from us.

The 'healthy economy' is being propped up by slave labor and kowtowing to communist governments, a massive influx of low cost illegal alien labor and the national security stealing foreign direct investment of enemy and philosophically unfriendly nations like China, the middle eastern countries like Saudi Arabia etc. In the meantime we have the most massive federal and state governments in the history of the US populated with the most profligate spenders this nation has ever known. But don't worry, be happy, our children will have to pay our debts for us. Right......
56 posted on 09/03/2006 7:29:28 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: TopDog2
Mercedes builds a plant in Alabama, Kia in Georgia.

Why does Honda make large displacement motorcycles here instead of making them in Japan and importing them? The "T" word maybe?

“T” word?

That is too elliptical for me. What do you mean?
57 posted on 09/03/2006 7:47:01 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Mohamed was not a moderate Muslim)
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To: ChessExpert

Honda built a motorcycle plant here to get around Tariffs.


58 posted on 09/03/2006 7:49:11 AM PDT by TopDog2 (Onward Christian soldiers...)
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To: A CA Guy

Good Lord!! That's an amazing "surplus" she has there.


59 posted on 09/03/2006 8:08:48 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: TopDog2
Tariffs!

I was afraid you meant Takeover!

I don't know the current state of tariffs. We used to have quotas on Japanese cars. I don't know if we do anymore.

I think the U.S. is a great place to invest.

It seems to me that Mexico has potential as a place to invest. It has a large workforce. It is close to the U.S. market. With more Mexican employment, sales to Mexicans would go up. But it is politically corrupt. There is too much risk of government shake downs from the local to national level. Poor Mexico. And their problems become our problems.
60 posted on 09/03/2006 8:13:33 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Mohamed was not a moderate Muslim)
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