[TimesDomain]

of interest .....

Amr son of Shamer quoted Jabir, who quoted Mohammed bin Ali to have said:

For our Mahdi, there are two signs. Since the birth of Universe, these events have never taken place. Those two signs are that there will be Lunar Eclipse on the first night of Ramadhan and Solar Eclipse in the middle of Ramadhan.
(Dar-e-Qatni, Vol. 1, P.188)

[Ken522]

Amr son of Shamer quoted Jabir, who quoted Mohammed bin Ali to have said: ...

Now that's what I call proper atributing of sources! ;-)

[Robe]

Ramadhan to start September 24th or 25th

2006 September 7 - partial lunar eclipse
Partial Eclipse of the Moon, 2006 September 7; the beginning of the umbral phase visible in Asia, Australia, Europe except extreme western part, Africa except extreme western part, Antarctica except Marie Byrd Land and Antarctic Peninsula, the Indian Ocean, the western Pacific Ocean, and the eastern South Atlantic Ocean; the end visible in Asia, Australia, Europe, Africa, most of Antarctica, the Indian Ocean, the western Pacific Ocean, and the eastern Atlantic Ocean.
Moon enters penumbra September 7 16 42.3
Moon enters umbra 7 18 05.0
Middle of eclipse 7 18 51.3 UT
Moon leaves umbra 7 19 37.6
Moon leaves penumbra 7 21 00.3

Magnitude of the eclipse: 0.189

2006 September 22 - annular solar eclipse
(Doesn't seem to be visable in Middle East or Asia)
See map at :
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/eclipse/map206.pdf

[shankbear]

.....and howler monkies flying out of my ass.

[ApplegateRanch]

Okay; it has now been several hours, and nobody has risen to the bait on this, not even when I pointed out earlier that MadMo's boys had neither the astronomical knowledge, nor the math to figure this out, and I'm tired of waiting.

Solar eclipses can only occur near a new moon; lunar eclipses can only occur near a full moon.

Ramadamadingdongdan: From Wikipedia, just to confirm my memory

The Islamic calendar has retained an observational definition of the New Moon, marking the new month when the first Crescent Moon is actually seen, and making it impossible to be certain in advance of when a specific month will begin (in particular, the exact date on which Ramadan will begin is not known in advance). In Saudi Arabia, if the weather is cloudy when the New Moon is expected, observers are sent up in airplanes.

Now let's put it together: New moon starts Ramadan; lunar eclipses occur around the full moon, or mid-lunar month, so Ramadan CAN NOT start with a lunar eclipse.

Conversely, solar eclipses CAN NOT occur mid-lunar month.

The sequence is assbackwards; it would HAVE to be a supernatural event.

They DID get it right, that it had never happened 'from the beginning of the universe'.