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The needle and the damage done
Times Herald ^ | 8/27/06 | Gordon Glantz

Posted on 08/28/2006 10:40:29 AM PDT by qam1

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To: Screamname

The guy lost in the shuffle with Croce was his guitar player and collaborator [Marty Muhl- something]. Before they hooked up Croce was going nowhere. Don't know if he co-wrote, helped with the arrangements or what. But Croce took off once he joined up. He died in the same plane crash.


101 posted on 08/28/2006 2:47:40 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: KevinB

I always liked "The Entertainer" [best description of the music business I ever heard (edging out "Under Assistant West Coast Promo Man")]. And as a Catholic, "Only the Good Die Young" was a hoot. I also liked the tribute album he did to the '50s groups [with "Uptown Girl"].

One of the groups that sent me around the bend when they got in was the SUPREMES.


102 posted on 08/28/2006 2:53:02 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: KevinB

See my post #101. It was meant for you. Somehow I sent it for Screamname. Another senior moment [sigh]


103 posted on 08/28/2006 2:55:06 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: KevinB

I always liked Billy Joel, saw him in concert a few years ago, and he still puts on a great show.


104 posted on 08/28/2006 2:56:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PzLdr

I read the way the plane crashed was ridiculous...They were taking off and a wing simply clipped the top 3 inches of a tree. I guess that was enough to upset the air flow and swing the plane to a dive. It`s always the greats isn`t it? It`s never George Michael, Air Supply or even Kanye West doing the death thing. Barry Manilow still tours but Stevie Ray Vaughn is 6 feet under.


105 posted on 08/28/2006 3:24:56 PM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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To: dfwgator

Check out this Paul McCartney concert I was watching last night on Youtube. I can`t believe how great this guy still is at 60+ years old. Someone posted them but not in order, so you may have to do a search to watch them in order. Just start with #1 and watch one after the other, this guy is incredible. You would think by now he would be some kind of lightweight has been, but he completely kicks ass in this show.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=paul+mccartney+back+in+the+us&search=Search


106 posted on 08/28/2006 3:30:32 PM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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To: Lancey Howard

I saw a Sprinsteen concert in 1974..................

I saw him at the same time (1973) in a small club. The music was very rousing but I couldn't get into it because I had never heard any of his albums


107 posted on 08/28/2006 3:34:06 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: Screamname

I read the same accounts in Rolling Stone mag years ago about the wacky love nest Yoko and John set up in NYC. All white rooms etc. Can you believe that funking Yoko is worth a billion these days?


108 posted on 08/28/2006 3:39:12 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: Skooz
Kind of a rambling, jumbled mess of a column, but not too bad.

I agree, minus the "but not too bad" part. His thoughts on Stringspreen, Young, and Cash are bunk in my book. Neil Young was such a drug addict, Stringspreen hasn't made good music since the 70's, and Cash ...... well ...... not every great voice writes their own material. He got it right on Syd and No-brain, though.

109 posted on 08/28/2006 3:47:28 PM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: Screamname
Barry Manilow still tours but Stevie Ray Vaughn is 6 feet under.

You know, it was Clapton that gave up his seat in that doomed chopper so that SRV could get back to a family function quickly. A buddy of mine from Texas told me that after the crash, some friends of his made T-shirts that said 'E.C. killed S.R.V.' Pretty bad, but those Texans (and this Georgian) loved their SRV.

110 posted on 08/28/2006 3:52:49 PM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: qam1
Needle/Spoon

Trip/Moon

111 posted on 08/28/2006 4:07:15 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Moderate Bumper Sticker: Bush Lied, Terrorists Died!)
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To: dennisw

She is absolutely money obsessed, I assume because she has nothing else to do with her time. If you want to know how low she goes for a buck, take a look at the John Lennon baby stuff she sells through Amazon. Someone told me she doesn`t allow it to be advertised because she knows how low it is, but that doesn`t stop her from putting this sh*t up for sale. She use to have up John Lennon diapers and John Lennon cribs but it looks like it was taken down. This is all she has up now...

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_ba/002-3047433-4637652?url=search-alias%3Dbaby-products&field-keywords=john+lennon+baby&Go.x=15&Go.y=16&Go=Go


112 posted on 08/28/2006 4:15:45 PM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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To: dennisw
The music was very rousing but I couldn't get into it because I had never heard any of his albums

That's because he only had one album then. Like I said, he did mostly oldie covers and did them well.

113 posted on 08/28/2006 4:19:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dennisw

By the way, you have a great homepage.


114 posted on 08/28/2006 4:24:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Jackknife

I would have much preferred that Clapton took that seat rather than a bonafide genius like SRV. I can`t stand Clapton, Clapton is as phony as it gets. He`s nothing more than an english putz who has had his arse kissed his entire life for doing nothing more than ripping off black musicians and everyone else whose crossed his path, and if you want to know how phony he is (as if his disgusting exploitation of his sons death wasn`t example enough), a friend of mine about ten years ago was playing in a bar down in the Village here in NYC when HRH Clapton walked in. HRH Clapton liked what he was hearing and asked how he played a certain lick on the guitar, so my buddy showed him. Needless to say my buddy asked for an autograph, and what did HRH Clapton say? He said no. I mean here he comes off the street, rips off a riff my buddy made up to come up working on his own style, and HRH Clapton spits in his face. F- that putz. Let him go back on heroin and OD. It seems that was the only time he was any good.


115 posted on 08/28/2006 4:27:12 PM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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To: qam1
Wouldn't Ray Charles fall into this category? I didn't know, until I saw the movie Ray, that he was addicted to heroin, but I guess Charles still kept his edge and didn't let the drugs kill him prematurely? Is that the qualifier for this critic's point, that Charles didn't die from the drugs so he's okay, but Cobain and others did, so they aren't?

-PJ

116 posted on 08/28/2006 4:28:18 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: murdoog

Speaking of the "Turtles",Frank Zappa had always been pressured to make commercial music by his record label."You should make music like the Turtles",they said.So what did he do after the Mothers broke up and he was looking for a new line up?He hired Flo and Eddie of the Turtles and still made music like he wanted.


117 posted on 08/28/2006 4:52:57 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: Screamname

I'm not in the group that thinks Clapton is G-d as a guitar player, but in the last twenty years or so he's seemed like a pretty decent fellow. That story seems a little fishy to me (I'm questioning your friend's rendition of the story not yours).


118 posted on 08/28/2006 5:50:54 PM PDT by KevinB
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To: Dementon

I liked it when it was done by NiN, but Cash's cover, makes me feel the song in the gut more.


119 posted on 08/28/2006 5:58:54 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: KevinB

It`s not a fishy story, the guy is a world class sc*mbag. I`m not the greatest writer in the world so maybe you would find it hard to believe, but to say it again, he showed him some licks and Clapton told him to f- off when he asked for his autograph and I believe it. Lest you forget, when his son Connor died, he was all over the airwaves, radio, TV, exploiting his kids death for every last pound of attention, like CIndy Sheehan, for an entire year. Could you do that if your son was killed? I would be in an absolute catatonic coma for a year if I lost my kid like that, yet there was Clapton on Dance fever and every other dickwad show whoring his kid for a lousy buck until he finally convinced the fools to give him a grammy. It was never ending all the appearences he made. Oh yes, another story... I drove a roadie once who told me when Clapton was on tour with John Lee Hooker, Hooker one night touched Claptons guitar and Clapton kicked Hooker out of the tour right there. Do you remember that one? I think think this was in the early `80`s. They were suppose to go on tour but suddenly the bitch cancelled it. Clapton sucks and will always suck. The only time he was of any use or any good was when he was leeching off the backs of true talents like Jack Bruce or the Allman brothers. I always find it funny that everyone compliments him on Layla when that idiot didn`t write one note for that song. It was a compete Duane Allman song, and for years he held back royalties from his Duanes family after Duane died.. He`s a complete freggin` sh*tbag, and in my opinion a talentless waste of food and air.


120 posted on 08/28/2006 6:19:27 PM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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