Translation: "We went back into the closet." LOL
Anyone heterosexual that thinks homosexuals can really change should ask this question: Could I become a homosexual if I wanted to do it?
Your post demonstrates that you're unaware of some very key points. Checkout the links I've posted on this thread and get back to me.
And you know this how?
Besides its a poor analogy! Proven so by the following adapted statement.
Anyone not guilty of murder that thinks murders can really change should ask this question: Could I murder someone?
ask the long term prison population. That situation is documented and followed the "when women are unavailable".
Yes, I think people can develop homosexual attractions especially from a young age. All sorts of factors can contribute such as self-esteem, neglect and abuse. It is a much more difficult task to teach an old dog new tricks though.
"Translation: "We went back into the closet." LOL"
I agree with you. I don't buy the idea that anyone can get rid of those sick tendencies. I don't think that sort of thing is a choice. They are just going back into the closet. I don't ever remember making a choice to be interested in women. I didn't sit down and way the pros and cons of being straight and of being a fruit. It just kinda happened that I ended up being straight.
I have found the best allegory to homosexuality is left and right-handedness. We all have a natural preference. If, however, while developing, one is taught or forced to use the "wrong hand" (as I was for batting in baseball....my brother told me I was doing it wrong and would make be bat right-handed) - THAT becomes the natural way. However, with just a little practice, one can recover the "natural" original preference. (I practiced a little and can now bat or golf both ways).
The same can be applied to sexuality. A naturally hetero peron can easily be drafted into "gayness" during their early years. Many of these folks can change - and be completely happy (I personally know 1 girl and 1 guy wwho have done so). The term "L.U.G." doesn't exist for no reason.
Now, that being said, there ARE many naturally gay people. To try to change them would be a failure and a mistake. But, I would bet there are more "made" gays than "natural" gays...although I have no statistics on the matter....just personal observation.
Yeah, if I want to - bi-sexuality is just that.
People can do anything they wish, behaviorally speaking.
Anyone heterosexual that thinks homosexuals can really change should ask this question: Could I become a homosexual if I wanted to do it?
I believe you could get sexual with a guy if you found him somewhat attractive in a cute and non-threatening way. Perhaps if he was really cute and you liked him (maybe even a pretty she-male with long hair and breasts from taking female hormones or breast implants) and really wanted to work at it.
My point is everyone has an "erotic template". A list or collection of characterics they are attracted to sexually.
I think the ex-gay thing is simply choosing to fight these desires, rather than giving in to them.
Not so hard to believe. As a married man I am expected to avoid strip clubs and prostitutes and all the other sort of sexual temptation stuff. I don't see that avoiding gay sex by someone attracted to same sex partners is all that different. Resisting temptation is resisting temptation.
Now, should a single guy trust an ex-lesbian enough to marry her, or should a single woman marry an ex-gay man? That's a lot harder to say, because it really puts a lot of faith in the ex-gay partner being able to resist temptation for the rest of their married life. Probably best for an ex-gay to marry another ex-gay.
But I don't think it's right to make fun of people trying to change their lives for the better. Going back in the closet is still doing it and lying about it. Trying to avoid giving in to temptation and telling others it's possible is not going back in the closet and requires a lot of courage.
The answer to your question is YES. the follow up question of course is WHO would WANT to? Quite different from a homosexual wanting to live a normal life.
One of the techniques used is to wire the subject up, show them homoerotica and give them electric shocks everytime they respond sexually. Given enough shocks - they'll stop responding. With negative reinforcement techniques - almost ANYONE can be changed into ANYTHING.
Sure.
(1)I could cultivate erotic and romantic feelings for other women, seek the company of lesbians, and participate in the aspects of "lesbian culture"--- concerts and dances, discussion groups, literary activities, "womyn's spirituality" prayer groups and lesbian-affirming churches, and so forth--- which are found in great abundance in big cities and University towns; and
(2)I could no doubt find a woman I was fond of, and pursue a sexual relationship with her.
In fact, there are many young heterosexual women in Women's Studies and other lesbian milieux who are doing exactly that. At the local State University they call them LTG's (Lesbians 'Til Graduation.)
And the number of lesbians who are divorced, with children, shows that they were at one time functioning as heterosexuals.
Feelings fluctuate and can be modified --- sometiems more, and sometimes less-- by expectations and experience. But behavior is always a choice. That's what it means to be a rational being.
Yes indeed! I can choose to be a pedophile, an adulterer, a murderer, a liar, a thief, a heterosexual, a homosexual, a transexual, a bisexual, or celibant, a Christian, a Muslim, a Bhudhist or an atheist. These are called choices and the Creator formed us as creatures of choice! We all make them daily! I could choose to leave my wife and run off with a man if the opportunity presented itself. I have chosen to do what the truth declares is best for me. That's a choice all of us have been given and we shall all answer for the choices we make someday.
This phenomenon is more complicated then you reduce it to. There are many causes for same-sex attraction and are treated differently.