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To: PEACE ENFORCER
You really think the PRC, a secular state with atheist roots, has that much influence on Iran, an Islamic Republic?

I don't think the mullahs would tolerate that.

42 posted on 08/24/2006 5:05:56 PM PDT by Abd al-Rahiim
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To: Abd al-Rahiim; PEACE ENFORCER; pppp

You really think the PRC, a secular state with atheist roots, has that much influence on Iran, an Islamic Republic?"

I do. Perhaps not in how to run Iran internally (which is & has been, in parts, reminiscent of the Chinese and Soviet tactics anyway), but certainly in reshaping the Mideast and diminishing, if not attempting to eradicate, the U.S. and Western influence.

Equally, the Chinese and the Russians will happily accommodate as long as they think that they can have IRI under their thumbs should IRI misbehave towards them. This isn't simply about mutual investments and business deals between China, Russia and IRI. It is also about forming alliances for a bigger agenda.

"I don't think the mullahs would tolerate that."

The mullahs, at any point, would not only tolerate anything that is expedient, but would also welcome it. Toleration of the Marxists/Communists who brought them to power in the first place in Iran is a good example.


43 posted on 08/24/2006 7:53:38 PM PDT by odds
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To: Abd al-Rahiim
YES, I do think China has that influence on Iran. It doesn't matter weather or not China is a secular state. All they want is their BIG PORTION of the pie (I'm talking about the world or the part they want) China wants the USA to spend money in the Middle East but doesn't want us to accomplish anything (Thus the sectarian violence in Iraq, the Violence in Lebanon, Irans answer to the United States about it's enriching program in the form of planes blowing up over majior U.S. cities Thank God this plot was foiled). With a little help from our Friends in the U.S. Senate they might just get their way.
The Mullahs would tolerate anything that leads them to their goal of re-establishing the "Ottoman Empire" This has been whispered quietly recently. For example when the Leader of Qatar simply mentioned "The Arabian Gulf" in one of his press conferences Ahmadimejad's feather's got into a ruffle. He fired back publicly saying " I noticed you changed the name of the PERSIAN GULF to the Arabian Peninsula " These are the subtleties that people with their in the sand don't wish to recognize. I'm not trying to shame or blame you, just trying to open your eyes.
HONESTLY.....

PEACE ENFORCER
52 posted on 08/25/2006 8:47:32 AM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER
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