Help Out an Old HS buddy Whose Gone Frenchy On Me!

[RobbyS]

The pope has a book written when he was still a cardinal, Called "Truth and Tolerance." Recommend he read it, so he will know which side of the fence is is on. So he will know there is a fence.

[BluesDuke]

He's gone native. He must be listening to jazz as well.

If indeed he is listening to jazz, some of us would consider there is still hope for him.

Some of us think jazz is the second greatest music America has given the world.*

Some of us might be listening to jazz even as we write.

Some of us might be listening to the freshly-purchased remastered Count Basie at Newport.

Some of us might have Three Suites (Duke Ellington), Sketches of Spain (Miles Davis), Guitar on the Go (Wes Montgomery Trio), and The Complete Gramercy Five Sessions (Artie Shaw and the Gramercy Five) cued up in the CD player to follow.

Some of us might even be native to the country which birthed the music in the first place.

Hint: It ain't France.

;)

* Do forgive me if I think the blues---without which there really couldn't have been much of jazz in the first place---is Numero Uno . . .

[tallhappy]

He's an eggheads academic completely outside the real world.

That's OK as long as he keeps it that way.

What he said about assimilation didn't seem that bad or off the mark. But he has his head in the sand with respect to the current forces against the third generation being fully assimilated.

He also has the case of the "I am above it all and it won't ever effect me and if it ever were to I'd be dead for a long time anyhow, best represented in his attempt at pith: And if islamic culture becomes the dominant culture, well that's history and darwin at work.

This mis-use of Darwin is also representaive of the social liberal libertarian lazy thinking that is common.

[JimRed]

Bump!

[Rockingham]

Strasbourg has not experienced the same level of Muslim immigration that Paris and Brussels have, so your friend is unlikely to recognize the problem because he cannot see and experience it directly. Neither are there many Islamist physicists in Europe. Ask him to report on what the French who have immediate experience with Muslim problems think, and on general French opinion on the subject. That may prompt him to expand his frame of reference. Or, he may just regard the matter as a nuisance and make no reply.

Most people, even very intelligent ones, lack the ability to reason or understand things that are beyond their immediate experience or that are not immediately in the news. Worse, as to Islam, most Westerners are adamantly unwilling to accept that we are in a grim civilizational struggle that will almost certainly involve general war and mass killing of civilians in the West at some point. When the Muslims in Europe see themselves as powerful enough, they will start with demands for power backed by targeted and then wide scale killings. At that point, European civilians will realize their peril. Until then, most will avoid the subject as unfit for polite conversation by reasonable people.

[ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton]

Yeah good point.

On the other hand I could only HOPE he finds freerepublic.

[ruthles]

Did you see Talladega Nights?

[JerseyHighlander]

Your friend is readily identifiable with the details you provided.

Netiquette tossed out the window, and yuo posted it on FR no less, where horribly crude responses on the subject are bound to be posted. Looks poorly on you all around.

[cgbg]

he has a degree in international law

Oxymoron, eh?

We had a lawyer in our office who had one of those degrees. When I got finished ridiculing the concept he stopped bragging about his "degree".

Now he wishes he had majored in basket-weaving. :-)

[JerseyHighlander]

You might want to try to scare him into reasonableness, and explain to him the ill fate that the leading intellectual and politicial families of Assyrian Chaldean and Hindu communities had forced upon them when the Muslim hordes overtook their nations.

Many of the great "Muslim" science discoveries were from Assyrians and Chaldean families who had converted by the sword within 2 generations prior. Once the wellspring of the Christian institutions of higher learning were dried up within 150 years at most, all Muslim science and intellectual pursuit in a conquered area ceased, in many places, until this day.

[Centurion2000]

To be honest, I think that religion will not be the major issue in future.

Your friend's an idiot that is willifully ignorant of reality around him. People like that are hazards especially when they walk into danger like busses in the street, high crime areas and other Darwin candidacy award type activities.

[dersepp]

Get over there and get him out of town and head south on the wine road toward Colmar. Have him buy a place near Obernai and commute from there. Munster could work, but is a bit close. The area is very conservative, and he'll hoffentlich be quoting Le Pen before long.

That reminds me. I have some Hugel Riesling around here somewhere. Think I'll stay up all night, sipping that and having pate and and a little choucroute garnie fom the other night as the war comes on over Jerusalem. Better enjoy ourselves, things are about to become unhinged everywhere.

[Yossarian]

In every immigration debate, the "conservatives" claim the new groups refused to learn the language, learn the culture, prone to crime and laziness. Just read a history book about the US during the Irish Migration, they said the exact same things about the Papists that you are saying about the Muslims.

Really? I wasn't aware that my Irish-immigrant ancestors were portrayed as strapping bombs on themselves and blew up innocents, or flying airplanes into skyscrapers.

Or portrayed as beheaders

Or portrayed as cartoonist killers (and there were many anti-Irish cartoons).

Or portrayed as killers of sisters "to protect family honor".

Or portrayed as creating explosive liquids to blow up airliners.

Or portrayed as blaming everything on the Jews. Or deniers of pogroms (forerunners of the Holocaust).

etc., etc.

Was there bias against the Irish - sure! Were the Irish from "beyond the pale"? Sure! Were the Irish at the time locked in violent struggle to kick the English out of Ireland, and thus supportive of freedom fighters (like Michael Collins) who used borderline methods? Yup.

But that's a long way away from being compared to the scummy things the Muslims are doing NOW, and HAVE BEEN DOING FOR 700 YEARS!

Sheesh. Some people find equivalence in the most dissimilar things...

[zip]

ping

[true_blue_texican]

Wow!! That's sobering.

[LdSentinal]

Yup. "Ricky Booby."

[ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton]

Thanks everyone!

You have given me some really good ideas!

[ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton]

Here is what I sent...

Enjoy:

Well there are several things we agree on and one of them is that those were some good times for me as well.


As always your interpretation is greatly appreciated and read and studied.

Certainly if it wasn’t for the current oil situation, Islam would be no more than a minor nuisance and leaders would have great difficulty in their dogged pursuit of nuclear weapons.


In Colorado and Wyoming there is enough oil shale to produce power for over a century at our current rates.

And we have untapped reserves in Alaska and offshore.

France and Europe has shown us safe nuclear power. Production of electricity takes up a high percentage of our oil imports.

So there is room for improvement even without breakthroughs in technology.

I think if and when supplies go down, the invisible hand of the free market which Adam Smith referred to will stabilize the market and make some of these considerations come into being along with future undiscovered technologies.

If the next 20 years see the changes in populations and international wealth that the last 20 years have seen the West might see some threats from fundamentalist regimes and China. China is of course based on a unsustainable economic system but they have such huge inflows of western cash that it delays the breakdown of the government.

The same thing is true in the Middle East.

But the first step is for both of these problems is oil and energy independence.


The Democrats and turn coat Republicans have stopped any meaningful progress in that direction.


Hopefully some incentives for local energy production will be made into law soon.

[Ben Chad]

I've given up on my liberal friends, and vice versa.