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Feuding Minutemen only united on border woes (Simcox Minutemen)
Reuters ^ | Aug 16, 2006 | Tim Gaynor

Posted on 08/17/2006 1:18:46 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

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All of this has to be hurting fundraising.
1 posted on 08/17/2006 1:18:48 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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ping


2 posted on 08/17/2006 1:19:38 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....another article? This IS getting some notice now, I see.


3 posted on 08/17/2006 1:23:20 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Their problems are becoming more public.


4 posted on 08/17/2006 1:26:55 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: nopardons
It's Reuters, so it's got to be true.

LOL.

L

5 posted on 08/17/2006 1:34:48 AM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

As they should be!


6 posted on 08/17/2006 1:38:46 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Lurker

In this instance, it IS true.


7 posted on 08/17/2006 1:39:11 AM PDT by nopardons
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In this instance, it IS true.

The only thing Reuters needs to add is some doctored photos and a pic or two of Green Helmet guy doing the accounting.

LOL!

L

8 posted on 08/17/2006 1:40:50 AM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: Lurker
LOL

But seriously, this thing with the MCDC is very serious nd it is hurting the MMs outside of his jurisdictions. There's NO good reason why THEY should be tarred by the same brush, that Simcox, alone, has brought down upon himself.

9 posted on 08/17/2006 1:45:41 AM PDT by nopardons
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I love this quote"We have hired accountants and auditors ... to handle all the money, and we're in fine shape," he said"

Ok then we have these quotes:


From the Washington Times:
"Mr. Simcox, who has been criticized by current and former MCDC members for a lack of leadership and financial accountability, had referred The Times to Mrs. Otis, saying she could "tell you everything" to clear up the concerns. Instead, Mrs. Otis issued a statement saying only that all Minuteman donations have been "securely collected, counted and deposited" in MCDC bank accounts ."

and

"Maureen E. Otis -- president of American Caging Inc. in Stafford, Texas, an agency hired to collect, deposit and disburse donations to the civilian border-patrol group -- told The Washington Times that neither MCDC President Chris Simcox nor the group's board of directors had given her permission to "disclose any numbers"

From the Arizona Free Republic.

"Simcox estimated that MCDC has raised $1 million, plus about $600,000 to build fencing along the border but said that he can't be sure of the amount. He said the organization hired accountants and consultants in 2005 and set up a "caging" account controlled by a lawyer to ensure that donations were handled property."

"Board member and Executive Director Al Garza said he has no idea about its finances. When asked how much money his organization has received in contributions, Garza said: "Oh, geez, I don't know. I don't make it my business. I refuse to even ask for the figures. . . . They're donations being well spent, I can tell you that." "Only our auditors and our caging company know exactly how much we've raised," he said. "It's not my job. That's why we've hired the best independent auditors."


10 posted on 08/17/2006 1:46:32 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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What a damned mess this MCDC all is and Simcox is just another snake oil salesman.
11 posted on 08/17/2006 1:50:46 AM PDT by nopardons
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I've said it before and I'll say it again.

If there's any criminal wrongdoing I'm sure the proper authorities will convene a Grand Jury and try to get indictments. If they've swindled folks somehow I hope they get the book tossed at them.

But what I am going to do is take a wait and see attitude about this. I'm sure as hell not going to take Reuters or the AP at their word.

Sorry for the delay in my response. I've got some ESDA folks out working a fire.

L

12 posted on 08/17/2006 1:51:20 AM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

as a general rule, graft is a universal concept. it really does take a charismatic leader/ideologue in control of the purse to cut down on the highest-level graft in any organization.


13 posted on 08/17/2006 1:53:38 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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Well I am going to make a phone call to certain "golfer" and his thing he has got going and see I can confirm what we talked about earlier


14 posted on 08/17/2006 1:53:54 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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Dubbed vigilantes by President Bush

Kinda, sort, not really. The Minutemen aren't vigilantes because they aren't directly involving themselves in law enforcement actions. They're more like a real time tip line for the Border Patrol, and the MM have strict policies about avoiding contact and confrontation with the illegals.

The President referred generally to vigilantes not being welcome along the border. Since the Minutemen have not become vigilantes, the are not covered by the President's statements.

But even so, the MM need to confront their administrative issues and deal with questions as to the handling of the donated funds. Until those questions are answered, it will be difficult for many people who like the movement to trust the organization with more donations.

15 posted on 08/17/2006 1:55:58 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Lurker
The hard info isn't to be found in AP and Reuters articles...yet. It IS easily found here on FR, though.

The caging firm, that Simcox is using, is in BIG trouble. It has subpoenas out on it and Otis is hiding from the police and won't open the office door. Do you know that, or are you going to believe, hook, line, and sinker, the lies Chris and his "spokespeople" are feeding you?

The IRS will get Simcox before there's a "GRAND JURY".

Is it a big fire?

16 posted on 08/17/2006 2:06:20 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: catholicfreeper

Good luck! :-)


17 posted on 08/17/2006 2:07:08 AM PDT by nopardons
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"Dubbed vigilantes by President Bush and migrant hunters by Mexico"

Who did they arrest or lynch?
Al Reuters had better stick to faking pictures.
They still suck at that too.
It's just that they suck even more at their stories.
The Minutemen should be strongly commended for doing what they can to help stop illegal immigration.
18 posted on 08/17/2006 2:13:15 AM PDT by Jameison
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These whiners/sour grapes former Minutement are really jerks. For whatever reason, they couldn't cut it. Now they're damaging the effort while the opponents of the group stand by grinning from ear to ear.


19 posted on 08/17/2006 2:14:52 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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The MCDC has done NOTHING at all to stop illegal migration; NOTHING.


20 posted on 08/17/2006 2:15:54 AM PDT by nopardons
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