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Even dead people can't escape AOL
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH ^ | 08/04/2006 | David Sheets

Posted on 08/06/2006 7:53:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Maxine Gauthier doesn't own a computer. She doesn't know the first thing about Web browsing or sending e-mail. She's not even sure where to find a computer's "on" button, as she describes it.

Yet for the past nine months, she has been fighting one of the most persistent and some say irritating institutions in cyberspace: AOL, formerly known as America Online.

"An AOL service guy told me to stop complaining and learn to use a computer," she said. "Then he hung up."

Most of AOL's $1 billion in profits continues to come from subscriptions to dial-up service, a market it still dominates.

When Gauthier's father, Melvin Berkowitz, died last summer, he was living in Florida and had one credit card. Its only charges were to AOL. Gauthier's mother, Marion Berkowitz, now 80, and still living in Florida, had her name on the account but never used it.

Gauthier discovered the continuing dial-up service charge as she was settling her father's estate. She first called to cancel the AOL account last November.

With each subsequent call, AOL became more curt with Gauthier. During one exchange, "the guy - I think it was a manager - just told me to 'shut up and listen to what I have to say or don't bother calling.' Then he hung up on me," she said.

Finally, this month, Gauthier was able to cancel her father's credit card. The AOL charges, going back to last summer, were wiped away, and she was reimbursed for both the charges and late fees.

A few days ago, Gauthier obtained a letter from AOL that was sent to her mother in Florida. The letter was addressed to Melvin Berkowitz.

"Dear Mr. Berkowitz," it said. "We hope you'll come back to AOL."

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aol
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1 posted on 08/06/2006 7:53:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Sounds like AOL is similar to the Democratic Party.


2 posted on 08/06/2006 7:57:54 AM PDT by jdm
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To: BenLurkin

It took 6 months of phone calls and threats of lawyers,
for AOhell to cancel my account. They finally credited
my account for the 6 months of charges.

They are the worst I've had to deal with. Verizon DSL on
the other had is great.


3 posted on 08/06/2006 8:00:10 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ().....Go Cubbies .....()
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To: BenLurkin
One solution is to pay them using a Debit card. When you decide to tell AOL that you are canceling your AOL account also cancel the Debit card. The bank will issue another one with a different number.
4 posted on 08/06/2006 8:06:36 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: ThreePuttinDude
It took 6 months ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,for AOhell to cancel my account.

Same AOL of ten years ago when I left.

5 posted on 08/06/2006 8:07:49 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: BenLurkin

We had a similar problem with cable service after my dad died...they finally stopped sending a bill when my brother wrote them back and told them to send the bill to heaven because that is where he could be found and he doubted they had cable in heaven.


6 posted on 08/06/2006 8:07:54 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: BenLurkin

Somebody posted an article that presented a look inside AOL's 'Customer Retention Manual' recently. That'd be a good companion link for this topic.


7 posted on 08/06/2006 8:10:59 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: BenLurkin

There is an AOL scam with Dell. Computers. I bought a Dell laptop and several months later began getting AOL charges on my credit card.

I called to have them rescinded because I never signed up or used AOL. They told me that the computer came with an AOL subscription and when the free months ran out the charges began. I don't know how they got my credit card account.

Any way while speaking the the AOL rep, I told him I was going to come get him and do him in. He laughed and said "You're coning to indeeia?" I told him not me personally but a representative of a company startup to rub out Indian Customer service reps.

I ended up talking to his supervisor and i told him that he was working for perhaps the most disreputable company on the globe and should consider resigning. AOL was going down the tubes as the customer base shrank and his job was in danger. He should alos know that havins AOL on his CV (resume) was a black mark he would have to suffer the rest of his life. He seemed genuinely alarmed that the sacred would be so soundly profaned.

It took more than an hour of telephone trees to get thejob done. I pity a poor old woman caught in their clutches.

AOL must die.


8 posted on 08/06/2006 8:11:27 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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There is an AOL scam with Dell. Computers. I bought a Dell laptop and several months later began getting AOL charges on my credit card.

That's good to know. I was considering a Dell. My roommate has one --a gift from his father. We have cable internet. I wonder if my roommate's dad is getting bills from AOL?

9 posted on 08/06/2006 8:15:00 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: BenLurkin
AOL will offer dial up service for free if you cancel. They're as ubitiquous as Microsoft.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

10 posted on 08/06/2006 8:16:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: BenLurkin

Now that they're allowing you to have the "free" option, I'm wondering if the charges to my credit card will ever really stop....


11 posted on 08/06/2006 8:17:42 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: BenLurkin

Never used AOL, not even when the Internet was in its infancy. My BS detector immediately went into overdrive when I saw the cheesy commercials and simplistic features. Internet for the sheeple - those who use it deserves to get taken for the ride.


12 posted on 08/06/2006 8:18:29 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: BenLurkin
AOL is was part of Time-Warner. Ted Turner owns a lot of Time-Warner. The less I have to do with any of that trash heap, the better. I got rid of Time Warner cable and now have DSL via telco (which is great) and DirecTV.
13 posted on 08/06/2006 8:18:35 AM PDT by TheGeezer (I.will.never.vote.for.John.McCain.)
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To: BenLurkin

AOL. Hell's own ISP.


14 posted on 08/06/2006 8:18:50 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: bert
AOL must die.

LOL! When the internet started to become noticed it was a very libertarian environment. AOL opened up the internet to the average person and the first thing many of them did was complain about the "anything goes" atmosphere of the internet. It was like millions of people invaded our exclusive little club and then wanted to change the rules.

Now it was only a matter of time before the internet lost this exclusivity, but AOL will always be known as the company that ruined the internet.

15 posted on 08/06/2006 8:19:01 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: BenLurkin
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16 posted on 08/06/2006 8:41:46 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: BenLurkin

This goes for any credit card transaction: You can contact your credit card company and have the charges disputed, usually within one month to 45 days they will have credited your account for the disputed amount. It is then up to the merchant to prove that they were indeed due the amount credited. Most merchants, particularly when they've been pushing through unwarranted reoccurring charges will simply back down.
I have a business, and have also had customers who "regret" their purchase, try to scam me out of the charge for services rendered. One credit card company told me the consumer has two years to dispute a charge.


17 posted on 08/06/2006 8:45:12 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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C'mon, folks. Too many whiners out there! You need to get a life and cut the complaining.

I've used AOL exclusively for my Internet service since 1997, and I've never had cause for a serious complaint.

I'm sure there are many other AOL customers like me, totally satisfied -- even among the notoriously grouchy Freeper community!

It's just that the whiners and complainers are the ones who always make most of the noise.

Ho-hum. What else is new?


18 posted on 08/06/2006 8:52:58 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Drew68
.....I was considering a Dell.....

oops...

I have all Dell computers in my office and in no way make a derogatory Dell statement. The rant is in no way meant to be critical of Dell. AOL is the grievous offender.
19 posted on 08/06/2006 8:55:33 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Drew68

.....AOL will always be known as the company that ruined the internet......

AOL is a bulletinboard that never really learned what the internet is..


20 posted on 08/06/2006 8:57:27 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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