Posted on 08/05/2006 1:26:42 PM PDT by Sabramerican
Exactly, And as it has been explained on this site previously that is a pretext that has no bearing in international law. And why do they want to be armed? Sure they want to conquer Israel, but that is not really their primary goal. As was shown in an article from the Guardian (no less), Hezbollah terrorists were quoted saying after this battle with Israel, then starts the real fight - with political rivals in Lebanon. So what do you thin will happen if Mount Dov is handed over to Lebanon? Will Hezbollah disarm?
Hardly likely.
Yes, there may be things going on behind the scenes - I certainly think so - but there is no reason for the US to give Hezbollah a chance to "win" this war by giving them a possiblity to avoid total defeat by stopping the war before Israel has finished them off.
We don't have the power to stop this war, certainly not from the UN building. Even Wesley Clark says, the war will end when facts on the ground indicate clearly who the winner is. All these diplomats can do is create what they call a framework by clarifying what each side wants and how much. when the war is over, they run in with their papers which they hope will be relevant.
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And just how do they expect to accomplish this one? good luck, they'll need it...
A ceasefire with terrorists, eh? What kind of war is this?
It's not so much agitprop, although with the spread on the Internet it becomes such, it's an old traditional homefront morale booster.
The only LP's I have left, are several Israeli classics with titles such as "Songs of the Six Day War", "... the Yom Kippur war". There was a famous similar song in 1967 with the title "Nasser waits for Rabin".
You could learn a lot about Israel- or at least Israel is those days- from those songs. Some satire. Some stirring. Some romantic (lonely soldiers, lonely lovers at home).
I wish I could listen to then now but where does one find a record player.
On the war front, Haifa was just seriously hit. Wouldn't you say it's proof that Israel is fighting with a lack of proportion apropos to the situation if such an attack is still possible?
I wonder if the UN will rush to condemn this - deliberate- atrocity against civilians?
The US should not even allow this resolution to come to to the Security Council before FIRST the Security Council issues a resolution condemning the deliberate attack on civilians in Haifa as they did last week on the accident- if it occurred at all- in Qana.
I won't hold my breath.
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PP1. Recalling all its previous resolutions on Lebanon, in particular ...
And when this doesn't work?
Lebanon: How Can a Ceasefire be Shaped?
http://www.asharqalawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=2&id=5866
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"Ten years ago, following another tragedy in the Lebanese village of Qana, the wheels of diplomacy were set in motion to obtain a ceasefire that ended the first Israeli attempt at uprooting Hezbollah. That ceasefire lasted for almost a decade during which Israel felt secure enough from Hezbollah attacks to withdraw from a strip of territory it had held in Lebanon for almost two decades.
However, as we now know, that ceasefire did not address the root cause of the problem that is the inability of the protagonists to accept each others existence.
Hezbollah wants Israel wiped off the map. Israel repays the compliment by seeking the elimination of Hezbollah as a military organisation. This fight is prompted by existential threats, not territorial disputes that could be sorted out through diplomacy."
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Another UN "resolution" that will be about as useful as all the others; all of which are useful as a backup for when the Charmin runs out.
Does any of this sound familiar to what's happening today?
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The League of Nations was an international organization founded after the Paris Peace Conference of 1919. The League's goals included disarmament; preventing war through collective security; settling disputes between countries through negotiation diplomacy; and improving global welfare. The diplomatic philosophy behind the League represented a fundamental shift in thought from the preceding hundred years. The old philosophy, growing out of the Congress of Vienna (1815), saw Europe as a shifting map of alliances among nation-states, creating a balance of power in international relations maintained by strong armies and secret agreements. Under the new philosophy, the League was a government of governments, with the role of settling disputes between individual nations in an open and legalist forum. The impetus for the founding of the League came from Democratic U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, though the United States never joined the League of Nations due to Congress in America barring the country from being part of the League: they felt that America had already had too much involvement in Europe's affairs, and did not want to be a part of Europe's international disputes any more. This sentiment was largely shared by the people of America, despite Woodrow Wilson's keen desire to be a part of the League of Nations.
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