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Hezbollah has American TOW anti-tank missiles...where did they come from?
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Posted on 08/04/2006 9:19:07 PM PDT by janetjanet998
These are IDF pictures of the American TOW missiles they found with other hezbollah arms...CNN also mentioned they have found some TOWS
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the shelf of a TOW is 20 years or so..so some may have come from Iran-Contra..but the date on the Box says 2001
To: janetjanet998
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:20:41 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(The worst thing about censorship is XXXXXXXXXXXXX)
To: janetjanet998
Dems will suddenly be interested in this conflict because they can say Bush screwed up somehow and "let" these get into the hands of terrorists.
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:21:27 PM PDT
by
Darkwolf377
(http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
To: janetjanet998
They should be able to trace the lot numbers.
To: janetjanet998
You mean shelf-life of course. Your is a good question. Possibly a FMS sale and then someone stole them and sold them illicitly, or they could have been found or stolen in Iraq. These are pure guesses.
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:23:34 PM PDT
by
elhombrelibre
(Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
To: U S Army EOD
Yes, do a lot history; the MMC in Kuwait could do it.
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:24:42 PM PDT
by
elhombrelibre
(Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
To: janetjanet998
...smuggled out of Afghanistan maybe.....
To: thoughtomator
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:24:57 PM PDT
by
MJY1288
(THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
To: U S Army EOD
A shrewd country might copy the design and brand them as ours. That would be nuts.
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:26:36 PM PDT
by
SteveMcKing
(Wikipedia ~ the Ministry of Truth)
To: janetjanet998
Saudi Arabia maybe. In 1982 (Israel PLO Beirut) a crate of M16s was found, they were still there shipping lube. They came from Saudi.
There is an international weapons market. The date also says 1997. They might have come Bosnia.
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:26:48 PM PDT
by
Perdogg
To: janetjanet998
The missile matters, but do they have launchers too?
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:26:50 PM PDT
by
elhombrelibre
(Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
To: janetjanet998
There are probably 25 countries that have bought the TOW over the past 10 years or so. I'm sure the CIA has the serials and can tell you which country purchased it. The interesting story will be how that country explains that this was "stolen" but never reported back to the US. The next question will be how many of these were "stolen". If you consider the cost of each TOW...you have to be picky about when and where you use it, and the guy has to have some kinda training...which would be third question...where he got this training.
I would be prepared for alot of US weapons showing up here...in the arms of Hezballah. The Iranians front them on cash...so they can purchase on the world market and they've probably got several underground bunkers with weapons stored and waiting.
To: janetjanet998
From the government of Lebanon?
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:27:34 PM PDT
by
msnimje
(Uni-FAIL - UN peace keeping force in Lebanon has lived up to its name.)
To: janetjanet998
THese are clones of American TOWS. I forget who it is that makes them but these are not American-made TOWs (or at least not according to the littlegreenfootballs website.)
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:27:39 PM PDT
by
Skywalk
(Transdimensional Jihad!)
To: NorCalRepub
The date on the container says 2001, my guess would be from a NATO Member Country
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:27:49 PM PDT
by
MJY1288
(THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
To: elhombrelibre
FMS sales are supposed be with countries the US has friendly foreign agreements. At best there are only a dozen of so countries that could have procured this type weapon from US. Should be relatively easy to trace.
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:28:15 PM PDT
by
gov_bean_ counter
(There are only a few absolute truths in life, everything else is just an opinion.)
To: gov_bean_ counter
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:30:23 PM PDT
by
MJY1288
(THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
To: Skywalk
but why are the markings in English? if a country like China or Iran copied the design wouldn't the markings be in non-English
To: Perdogg
The date also says 1997. They might have come Bosnia Well, the "Date" said "2000". It was scratched out and "1997" written in.
So, if the original crate had "2000" on it, why would someone scratch through "2000" and write "1997"?
That seems odd. Something doesn't add up.
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posted on
08/04/2006 9:30:39 PM PDT
by
mattdono
(Alaska. Gulf. Drill.)
To: MJY1288
yup....could be...though the date on the box is what, just a shipment date .....could have sat somewhere for a year and not used....who knows....as long as we got 'em back
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