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Hollyweird's Wake-Up Call? (Rachel Marsden On Oliver Stone's New 911 DocPic Alert)
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 07/24/06 | Rachel Marsden

Posted on 07/24/2006 1:16:47 AM PDT by goldstategop

Hollywood director Oliver Stone dropped by Toronto’s Varsity Cinemas this week to premiere his new movie, World Trade Center, about two of the last police officers who were pulled alive from the World Trade Center rubble, post-9/11.

With him was Scott Strauss, one of the real-life police rescuers. Stone says Strauss and the other 9/11 families kept him in check. That’s quite the feat, given that Stone has called the Cold War “irritating”, says nationalism and patriotism are “evil forces”, considers Fidel Castro a personal friend, and mused that if he was George W. Bush he would “shoot himself”.

With this film, Stone has created a historically accurate, riveting human interest piece—a Hollywood rarity nowadays.

Every strong political leader in the movie is Republican. The caption at the bottom of TV newscasts repeatedly reads “Attack on America”—a handy reminder for liberal moviegoers who may have forgotten why we’re still fighting.

One character is a former Marine who leaves his civilian office job to help with rescue efforts, saying to his colleagues, “Don’t know if you guys know it yet, but this country’s at war.” He later says that the U.S.A. will need “a few good men to avenge what happened here”, and we’re told in the epilogue that he reenlisted in the military and served two tours of duty in Iraq—you know, that place where terrorists are being killed every day, even though liberals constantly tell us that it has nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11.

It’s a welcome departure from recent self-indulgent Hollyweird pap. Stone’s movie about Alexander the Great was basically soft gay porn. Apparently, this great warrior got about as much action in the sack as he did on the battlefield. And this was supposed to be a war movie?

Why stop there? How about remaking Patton from the perspective of the general’s “privates”? Or maybe redo Full Metal Jacket, showing why straight soldiers might have really needed one.

Legendary cowboy, John Wayne, would never have put up with Brokeback Mountain’s director telling him, “Okay, John, there’s really no plot or bad guys. You’ll just be riding around the countryside with Tonto, stopping periodically to erect a tent and have a sausage toss, if you get my drift.”

Brokeback wasn’t exactly a box office smash, but was considered “groundbreaking” by Hollyweird standards—perhaps because they took George Bush’s people (cowboys) and had them screw each other. Men making out with men, and people watching it unfold on a big screen—how daring! Haven’t they heard of Pride parades, or World Cup soccer?

Actor/director George Clooney fancies himself a rebel, too. Last year, he made two politically skewed flops, ignored by everyone except in Hollyweird.

In Good Night and Good Luck, Clooney sought to demonstrate how U.S. Senator Joe McCarthy ruined people’s lives by targeting communists in America—but failed to show a single innocent person whose life he actually ruined.

And no wonder the Hollyweird left loved Clooney’s movie, Syriana. It was like a Noam Chomsky lecture: boring, nonsensical, and driven by themes like “America sucks”, “oil companies are evil”, and “terrorists are poor, misunderstood schmucks”.

Maybe studios are just tired of losing money on narcissistic flights of celluloid fantasy that the bore the rest of us “unenlightened” folks? No one wants to watch a feature length PowerPoint presentation by Al Gore about toasty weather and melting ice. The penguins are happy and have lots of ice—I saw that in the March of the Penguins documentary that beat Al Gore’s at the box office.


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To: Darkwolf377
I don't think the success of Brokeback Mountain will be repeated

Actually, (although not a clone) a story in a roughly similar vein (presenting pornography on the big screen) is in the works with Dakota Fanning signed to star in the movie. With a title something like Pedophile or Pedophelia, or something, 12 year-old Dakota Fanning will be displayed on film in a simulated rape and in several scenes wearing just underwear.

Hollyweird doesn't get it and still thinks that it's perverted lifestyle is what we uneducated and unwashed Americans are thirsting for. That Stone may have made one good movie out of a string of leftist-oriented and historical revisionist ones doesn't mean he has seen the light. One film means he has one film, not a trend.
21 posted on 07/24/2006 4:37:25 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: beyond the sea
The Doors, Any Given Sunday, The People vs. Larry Flynt, Nixon, JFK, and Born on the Fourth of July were all good movies

All were pandering, worthless drivel imo. "Any Given Sunday"? You've GOT to be kidding. Twenty year old Carmen what's her name running a football team was laughable. And Al Pacino seems as if he's never picked up a football in his life. All really worthless movies.

22 posted on 07/24/2006 4:42:00 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: Darkwolf377
BS. The movie cost less than $20 million and took in $178 million worldwide. It does us no service to lie about the success of a movie like this. Stick to facts.

'Brokeback Mountain' was not a box-office smash, and anyone in the industry will tell you as much. It's final US gross was $83,025,853, after a long, long 4-month run in theaters from December '05 to April '06.

It was the beneficiary of a huge advertising campaign way more expensive than it's $14 million shooting cost, with unprecendented press coverage and hype to boot. And it got 8 Academy Award nominations.

The final Hollywood B.O. verdict was 'disappointment'. Not a flop, but no smash either. Gotta cross the $100M mark to be considered one, and most movies have 4 weeks to do it, not 4 months.

23 posted on 07/24/2006 4:43:44 AM PDT by Jhensy
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To: goldstategop
As has always been the truth, when it comes to Hollywood, just follow the money.

The Leftie movies have bombed and so the execs in H'wood decided that they had to give Americans something bearable...and they hand picked the poster boy for the Liberal agenda to make it. Oliver Stone is a talented man and I'm sure he made a fine film here. What I see happening is the damn hippie faction using someone like Stone to reclaim the entire 9/11-WOT microphone.

The voice of the hippies and the Leftist prevailed in Vietnam. Now look. If we allow this to happen again, we will once again be defeated from within. Hollywood wants to make nice? They can jam this movie. I don't need it anyway since I saw those Twin Towers destroyed right before my eyes.

It's too late, Hollywood, you should have been there for us from Day One.
24 posted on 07/24/2006 4:45:14 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: durasell
I disagree. I think it's going to be repeated again and again. Get name brand actors, known director, a niche script and a small budget

No big name would ever do this, unless Richard Simmons or Andy Dick is a "name brand." Ha. How about Jack Nicholson and Sean Connery do a geriatric version? Yuck!! Never going to happen.

25 posted on 07/24/2006 4:45:47 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: Northern Yankee

Thinking of the Duke got me thinking of Dutch and then thinking about that horrible Ronald Reagan movie from a couple of years back starring Babs hubby. Remember the backlash? My, my, how things have changed.. (a teenee tiny bit..)


26 posted on 07/24/2006 4:45:47 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (---an American in Maimi..............)
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To: subterfuge

No big name would ever do this, unless Richard Simmons or Andy Dick is a "name brand." Ha. How about Jack Nicholson and Sean Connery do a geriatric version? Yuck!! Never going to happen.


It won't be a gay movie or Brokeback II. It'll be some other niche market. Brokeback was basically an independent film with high production values.


27 posted on 07/24/2006 4:49:59 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: drierice

I thought JFK was a good and bad movie. It was good to the extent that if the person viewing is somewhat intellectually curious, he or she would say "hey, did this stuff really happen" and then try to look it up. Then they would see that not only was the movie totaly entertainment but the Kennedys should not be allowed loose in the country. It was bad for those who believe their history comes from the movies and totally believe in it.


28 posted on 07/24/2006 4:50:35 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: goldstategop

The Democrat Party just loved 911 (Bill Clinton was the chief enabler and causer of 911) and the murder of American and foreign innocents, by their beloved Muslim vermin!!! Any American voter that votes Democrat is either nuts or is smoking pot!!! A vote cast for any Democrat is vtoing for your death and the death of your families and loved ones. America, wake up!!!


29 posted on 07/24/2006 4:59:30 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: beyond the sea
Any Given Sunday

One of the most boring movies I have ever watched.

30 posted on 07/24/2006 5:12:18 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: goldstategop; Kathy in Alaska; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; tomkow6; SouthernHawk; MoJo2001; HiJinx; ..

Canteen ping


31 posted on 07/24/2006 5:17:04 AM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: goldstategop; Fawnn

Thanks for the ping Fawnn! WOW! This is good to read -- I wouldn't have seen that film without reading a review, that's for sure.


32 posted on 07/24/2006 5:21:30 AM PDT by StarCMC ("The word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say." - TheCrusader)
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To: Fish_Keeper
I thought hell would freeze over before Stone would make a film characterized in such a way.

Even James Hirsen (The Left Coast Report) has praised this movie.

33 posted on 07/24/2006 5:59:47 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: goldstategop; All

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NEVER FORGET



The Man Who Predicted 9/11:

9/11 Lifesaver RICK RESCORLA, R.I.P.

http://www.RickRescorla.com
(See: 'The Statue' Pictures)

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361



NEVER FORGET


34 posted on 07/24/2006 6:14:06 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; goldstategop; StarCMC; MS.BEHAVIN

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NEVER FORGET



As "WORLD TRADE CENTER" - The Movie opens in theaters nationwide...

The History Channel's 5th Anniversary 9/11 TV Speicial...


.."COUNTDOWN to GROUND ZERO"..


...airs Sunday, August 13th, 2006

...8:00 pm Eastern/Pacific Time

http://www.History.com





Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Co-Veteran of RICK RESCORLA's Battle of IA DRANG-1965

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
(Where Lifesaver RICK RESCORLA walked in Vietnam, exactly, 40 years ago - See 1st Picture)


NEVER FORGET


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35 posted on 07/24/2006 6:26:56 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: DustyMoment
With a title something like Pedophile or Pedophelia, or something, 12 year-old Dakota Fanning will be displayed on film in a simulated rape and in several scenes wearing just underwear.

How sad that her parents and publicist are so stupid. If she doesn't make the break through into adult acting when she hits 18-20, she will forever be known as the has been child actress that made the "pedophile" film.

Worse, having that in her filmography will make it harder to get cast in movies that will make and keep her marketable.

36 posted on 07/24/2006 7:18:04 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Valpal1
How sad that her parents and publicist are so stupid.<.i>

It's worse than you think. Her mother gushes over this film claiming that it could get Dakota an Oscar. Chew on that for a moment. Her own parents are pimping this girl in order for her to get a statue AND glorify pedophelia!!.

And, if she doesn't make the transition into adult acting jobs, Hollyweird will toss her on the junk heap of so many other child actors who (typically) go on to shattered careers of drugs and crime.

In other, non-fantasyland parts of the country, what they are about to do to Dakota is called child abuse - and it's punishable by law.

37 posted on 07/24/2006 7:31:37 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: goldstategop; Fawnn

Interesting......


38 posted on 07/24/2006 8:07:26 AM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (~ God Bless and Protect Our Brave Protectors of Freedom~)
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To: durasell
It won't be a gay movie or Brokeback II. It'll be some other niche market. Brokeback was basically an independent film with high production values.

Good point. If they do it, it'll be a feel good movie about nothing that will have a homo aside which is the real purpose of the flick. JMO. .

39 posted on 07/24/2006 8:11:19 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: drierice
"JFK" was a ridiculous work of fiction.

Donald Sutherland's character, Mr. X, who met with Garrison down in D.C. summed up MOST the entire TRUE story.

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Everything I'm going to tell you is classified top secret ... (significant look) I was a soldier, Mr. Garrison. Two wars. I was one of those secret guys in the Pentagon that supplies the military hardware - the planes, bullets, rifles - for what we call "black operations" - "black ops", assassinations, coup d'etats, rigging elections, propaganda, psych warfare and so forth. World War II - Rumania, Greece, Yugoslavia, I helped take the Nazi intelligence apparatus out to help us fight the Communists. Italy '48 stealing elections, France '49 breaking strikes - we overthrew Quirino in the Philippines, Arbenz in Guatemala, Mossadegh in Iran. Vietnam in '54, Indonesia '58, Tibet '59 we got the Dalai Lama out - we were good, very good. Then we got into the Cuban thing. Not so good. Set up all the bases for the invasion supposed to take place in October '62. Khrushchev sent the missiles to resist the invasion, Kennedy refused to invade and we were standing out there with our dicks in the wind. Lot of pissed-off people, Mr. Garrison, you understand? I'll come to that later ... I spent much of September '63 working on the Kennedy plan for getting all U.S. personnel out of Vietnam by the end of '65. This plan was one of the strongest and most important papers issued from the Kennedy White House. Our first 1,000 troops were ordered home for Christmas. Tensions were high. In November '63, one week after the murder of Vietnamese President Diem in Saigon, and two weeks before the assassination of our President ... ... a strange thing happened. I was sent by my superior officer, call him Y, to the South Pole as the military escort for a group of international VIP's. This trip had nothing to do with my nine years of work in Special Operations. It was sort of a "paid vacation". We hear vague ad-lib mutterings on the soundtrack indicating a friendly atmosphere, and we see stock footage of a C-130 transport flying to Antarctica and ice floes on the surface of the sea. Then, at a New Zealand airport, we see X, in a uniform, at a newsstand reading of Kennedy's assassination. The banner headline of an "Extra" edition of The Christchurch Star screams out "KENNEDY SHOT DEAD." X (V.O.) (CONT'D) It wasn't until I was on my way back in New Zealand that I read of the President's murder. That was 2 in the afternoon the next day New Zealand time, but already the papers had the entire history of an unknown 24-year-old man, Oswald - a studio picture, detailed biographical data, Russian information - and were pretty sure of the fact he'd killed the President alone, although it took them four more hours to charge him with the murder in Texas. It felt as if, well, a cover story was being put out like we would in a black op. Back at the Pentagon office, we see X returning and meeting Y. The atmosphere is cordial, but Y is slightly different from before - more harried, more nervous. He turns away to light a cigarette, he doesn't want the usual conversation. X (V.O.) (CONT'D) Anyway, after I came back I asked myself why was I, the chief of special ops, selected to travel to the South Pole at that time to do a job that any number of others could have done? One of my routine duties if I had been in Washington would've been to arrange for additional security in Texas. The Secret Service is relatively small, and by custom the military will augment them. I checked it out when I got back and sure enough, I found out someone had told the 112th Military Intelligence Group at 4th Army Headquarters at Fort Sam Houston to "stand down" that day, over the protests of the unit Commander, a Colonel Reich ... We see an outdoor shot of the Texas Army Headquarters on a day in 1963. Inside, on the same day, Col. Reich is on the phone, puzzled. X (V.O.) (CONT'D) Now this is significant, because it is standard operating procedure, especially in a known hostile city like Dallas, to supplement the Secret Service. Even if we had not allowed the bubbletop to be removed from the limousine, we'd've put at least 100 to 200 agents on the sidewalks, without question! There'd already been several attempts on de Gaulle's life in France. Only a month before in Dallas UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson had been spit on and hit. We'd have arrived days ahead of time, studied the route, checked all the buildings ... We never would've allowed all those wide-open empty windows overlooking Dealey ... never ... We would have had our own snipers covering the area. The moment a window went up they'd have been on the radio. We would've been watching the crowds - packages, rolled up newspapers, a coat over an arm, never would have let a man open an umbrella along the way - Never would've allowed that limousine to slow down to 10 miles per hour, much less take that unusual curve at Houston and Elm. You would have felt an Army presence in the streets that day, but none of this happened. It was a violation of the most basic protection codes we have. And it is the best indication of a massive plot in Dallas. Who could have best done that? People in my business, Mr. Garrison. People like my superior officer could've told Col. Reich, "Look - we have another unit coming from so and so providing security. You'll stand down." That day, in fact, there were some individual Army Intelligence people in Dallas and I'm still trying to figure out who and why. But they weren't protecting the client. One of them, by the way, was caught in the Book Depository after police sealed it off. In Dealey Plaza, 1963, we see an Army intelligence man taking a shot with a Minolta camera. X (V.O.) (CONT'D) Army Intell had a "Harvey Lee Oswald" on file, but all those files have been destroyed. Many strange things were happening that day, and Lee Harvey Oswald had nothing to do with them. We had the entire Cabinet on a trip to the Far East. We had a third of a combat division returning from Germany in the air above the United States at the time of the shooting, and at 12:34 P.M., the entire telephone system went dead in Washington for a solid hour, and on the plane back to Washington, word was radioed from the White House Situation Room to Lyndon Johnson that one individual performed the assassination. Does that sound like a bunch of coincidences to you, Mr. Garrison? Not for one moment. The cabinet was out of the country to get their perception out of the way. The troops were in the air for possible riot control. The phones didn't work to keep the wrong stories from spreading if anything went wrong with the plan. Nothing was left to chance. I bet you there were even backup teams and cars on the other side of the underpass in the event that Kennedy got through wounded. They would have moved in with vehicles like they did with de Gaulle. He could not be allowed to escape alive. The camera is on Jim, listening. This information is much greater than he ever envisioned, and he is stunned. X pauses. X (CONT'D) I never though things were the same after that. Vietnam started for real. There was an air of, I don't know, make-believe in the Pentagon and the CIA. Those of us who'd been in secret ops since the beginning knew the Warren Commission was fiction, but there was something ... deeper, uglier. And I knew Allen Dulles very well. I briefed him many a time in his house. He was also General Y's benefactor. But for the life of me I still can't figure out why Dulles was appointed to investigate Kennedy's death. The man who had fired him. I got out in '64. I retired from the U.S. Air Force. JACKIE KENNEDY I never realized Kennedy was so dangerous to the establishment. Is that why? X (chuckles) That's the real question, isn't it - "Why?" - the "how" is just "scenery" for the suckers ... Oswald, Ruby, Cuba, Mafia, it keeps people guessing like a parlor game, but it prevents them from asking the most important question - Why? Why was Kennedy killed? Who benefitted? Who has the power to cover it up? ... You know in '61 right after the Bay of Pigs - very few people know about this - I participated in drawing up National Security Action Memos 55, 56, and 57. These are crucial documents, classified top secret, but basically in them Kennedy instructs General Lemnitzer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, that from here on forward ... FLASHBACK TO the Pentagon offices on a day in 1961. A document is moved by hand into Lemnitzer's office where we see a set of hands holding it while it's read. There's a look of surprise on Lemnitzer's face. X (V.O.) (CONT'D) ... the Joint Chiefs of Staff would be wholly responsible for all covert paramilitary action in peacetime. This basically ended the reign of the CIA - "splintered it", as J.F.K. promised he would, into a "thousand pieces", - and now was ordering the military to help. This was unprecedented. I can't tell you the shock waves this sent along the corridors of power in Washington. This and, of course, firing Allen Dulles, Richard Bissell, and General Charles Cabell, all of them sacred cows of Intell since World War II. You got some very upset people here. DOCUMENTARY IMAGES flash on the screen - Allen Dulles, sweet-faced, smiling, at the Warren Commission Hearing and visiting Dealey Plaza; General Charles Cabell and Richard Bissell ... X (V.O.) (CONT'D) Kennedy's directives were never really implemented, because of bureaucratic resistance, but one of the results was that the Cuban operation was turned over to my department as "Operation Mongoose", which meant that people like my superior officer, General Y, took over the Cuban personnel that were being trained to invade Cuba - and the bases like the training camp at Pontchartrain in your home state that were closed down by Kennedy ... and that's how the "black ops" people, people like General Y, ended up taking the rules of covert warfare they'd used abroad and brought'em into this country. Now they had the people, the equipment, bases and the motivation ... check out an old CIA man, Bill Harvey - ran something called "Executive Action", which carried out foreign assassinations. Harvey was also involved with the fake defection program that got Oswald into Russia. Check out the Cabell brothers. Interesting links to this case. At Arlington Cemetery on the same day, Jim visits the grave of President Kennedy. We see the eternal flame. Jim thinks about what he should do now. The size of it stuns him. He is lost, reeling back to the past in his mind. DISSOLVE TO DOCUMENTARY FOOTAGE of Dachau concentration camp: thousands of bodies are piled and bulldozed ... And then back to Jim at Arlington Cemetery reliving it ... only the enormity of past evil can prepare him to confront present evil. In a strange way, it reassures him. X (V.O.) (CONT'D) ... don't underestimate the budget cuts Kennedy called for in March of '63 either - close to 52 military installations in 25 states, 21 overseas bases, you're talking big money. You know how many helicopters have been lost in Vietnam? About three thousand so far. Who makes them? Bell Helicopter. Who owns Bell? Bell was near bankruptcy when the First National Bank of Boston approached the CIA about developing the helicopter for Indochina usage. How 'bout the f-111 fighters? General Dynamics in Fort Worth. Who owns that? Find out the defence budget since the war began. $75 going on a hundred billion ... $200 billion'll be spent before it ends. In 1950 it was $13 billion. No war, no money. Sometimes I think the organizing principle of any society is for war. The authority of the state over it's people resides in it's war powers. Even Eisenhower - military hero of WWII - warned us about it: "beware the military - industrial complex", he said. Kennedy wanted to end the Cold War in his second term. He wanted to call of the moon race in favor of cooperation with the Soviets. He signed a treaty with the Soviets to ban nuclear testing, he refused to invade Cuba in '62, and he set out to withdraw from Vietnam. But that all ended on November 22, 1963. FLASHBACK TO the White House, 1963. Lyndon Johnson is with Henry Cabot Lodge. We see them as shadowy figures from a distance across the wide room, or near a veranda with a porch and plenty of light. Johnson, his back to us, talks in a loud, thick Texas drawl (mostly muted) and signs a document. X (V.O.) (CONT'D) Only four days after J.F.K. was shot, Lyndon Johnson signed National Security Memo 273, which essentially reversed Kennedy's new withdrawal policy and gave the green light to the covert operations against North Vietnam that provoked the Gulf of Tonkin incident. In that document lay the Vietnam War. In the park with X, Jim is staggered by all this information. X ceases walking and looks at Jim. JIM I don't ... I can't believe it. They killed him because he wanted to change things. In our time - in our country? X (shrugging) Kings are killed, Mr. Garrison. Politics is power, nothing more. But don't believe me. Don't trust me. Do your own work, your own thinking. JIM The size of this is ... beyond me. Testify? X No chance in hell, Mr. Garrison. I'd be arrested and gagged, declared insane and hospitalized ... maybe worse. You, too. I can only give you background, you got to find the foreground, the little things ... Keep digging. Y'know you're the only person to ever bring a trial in the murder of John Kennedy. That's important - it's historic. JIM I haven't yet. I don't have much of a case. X (rising to leave) But you don't have a choice anymore. You've become a significant threat to the national security structure. They would've killed you already, but you got a lot of light on you. Instead, they're gonna destroy your credibility; they already have in many circles in this town. You're some kinda ego-crazed southern caricature to many folks. Be honest - the best chance you got is come up with a case, something, anything, make arrests, stir the shitstorm. You gotta hope to reach a point of critical mass where other people will come forward and the government will crack. Remember, fundamentally people are suckers for the truth, and the truth is on your side, 'bubba. I hope you get a break ... Jim watches this mystery man walking away. The figure vanishes in the Washington breeze. Flags flap over some distant memorial to some distant history of the Republic. Jim rises, a decision made. 1. ************8 http://members.rogers.com/amatniek/jfk.html *********************** This is good enough to be posted!

and included. ................... Here is the scene with Donald Sutherland as Mr. X. in D.C. This character and scene supposedly were created from multple meetings between Garrison and "someone". I'm sorry for the way it looks, but you'll get it!

Everything I'm going to tell you is classified top secret ... (significant look)... I was a soldier, Mr. Garrison. Two wars. I was one of those secret guys in the Pentagon that supplies the military hardware - the planes, bullets, rifles - for what we call "black operations" - "black ops", assassinations, coup d'etats, rigging elections, propaganda, psych warfare and so forth. World War II - Rumania, Greece, Yugoslavia, I helped take the Nazi intelligence apparatus out to help us fight the Communists. Italy '48 stealing elections, France '49 breaking strikes - we overthrew Quirino in the Philippines, Arbenz in Guatemala, Mossadegh in Iran. Vietnam in '54, Indonesia '58, Tibet '59 we got the Dalai Lama out - we were good, very good. Then we got into the Cuban thing. Not so good. Set up all the bases for the invasion supposed to take place in October '62. Khrushchev sent the missiles to resist the invasion, Kennedy refused to invade and we were standing out there with our dicks in the wind. Lot of pissed-off people, Mr. Garrison, you understand? I'll come to that later ...

I spent much of September '63 working on the Kennedy plan for getting all U.S. personnel out of Vietnam by the end of '65. This plan was one of the strongest and most important papers issued from the Kennedy White House. Our first 1,000 troops were ordered home for Christmas. Tensions were high.

In November '63, one week after the murder of Vietnamese President Diem in Saigon, and two weeks before the assassination of our President ... ... a strange thing happened. I was sent by my superior officer, call him Y, to the South Pole as the military escort for a group of international VIP's. This trip had nothing to do with my nine years of work in Special Operations. It was sort of a "paid vacation".

.....We hear vague ad-lib mutterings on the soundtrack indicating a friendly atmosphere, and we see stock footage of a C-130 transport flying to Antarctica and ice floes on the surface of the sea. Then, at a New Zealand airport, we see X, in a uniform, at a newsstand reading of Kennedy's assassination. The banner headline of an "Extra" edition of The Christchurch Star screams out "KENNEDY SHOT DEAD."

X. (CONT'D) - "It wasn't until I was on my way back in New Zealand that I read of the President's murder. That was 2 in the afternoon the next day New Zealand time, but already the papers had the entire history of an unknown 24-year-old man, Oswald - a studio picture, detailed biographical data, Russian information - and were pretty sure of the fact he'd killed the President alone, although it took them four more hours to charge him with the murder in Texas. It felt as if, well, a cover story was being put out like we would in a black op."

on screen -- Back at the Pentagon office, we see X returning and meeting Y. The atmosphere is cordial, but Y is slightly different from before - more harried, more nervous. He turns away to light a cigarette, he doesn't want the usual conversation.

X (CONT'D) - "Anyway, after I came back I asked myself why was I, the chief of special ops, selected to travel to the South Pole at that time to do a job that any number of others could have done? One of my routine duties if I had been in Washington would've been to arrange for additional security in Texas. The Secret Service is relatively small, and by custom the military will augment them. I checked it out when I got back and sure enough, I found out someone had told the 112th Military Intelligence Group at 4th Army Headquarters at Fort Sam Houston to "stand down" that day, over the protests of the unit Commander, a Colonel Reich ...

on screen -- We see an outdoor shot of the Texas Army Headquarters on a day in 1963. Inside, on the same day, Col. Reich is on the phone, puzzled.

X (CONT'D)-- "Now this is significant, because it is standard operating procedure, especially in a known hostile city like Dallas, to supplement the Secret Service. Even if we had not allowed the bubbletop to be removed from the limousine, we'd've put at least 100 to 200 agents on the sidewalks, without question! There'd already been several attempts on de Gaulle's life in France. Only a month before in Dallas UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson had been spit on and hit. We'd have arrived days ahead of time, studied the route, checked all the buildings ... We never would've allowed all those wide-open empty windows overlooking Dealey ... never ... We would have had our own snipers covering the area. The moment a window went up they'd have been on the radio. We would've been watching the crowds - packages, rolled up newspapers, a coat over an arm, never would have let a man open an umbrella along the way - Never would've allowed that limousine to slow down to 10 miles per hour, much less take that unusual curve at Houston and Elm. You would have felt an Army presence in the streets that day, but none of this happened. It was a violation of the most basic protection codes we have. And it is the best indication of a massive plot in Dallas. Who could have best done that? People in my business, Mr. Garrison. People like my superior officer could've told Col. Reich, "Look - we have another unit coming from so and so providing security. You'll stand down."

That day, in fact, there were some individual Army Intelligence people in Dallas and I'm still trying to figure out who and why. But they weren't protecting the client. One of them, by the way, was caught in the Book Depository after police sealed it off."

In Dealey Plaza, 1963, we see an Army intelligence man taking a shot with a Minolta camera.

X (CONT'D)-- "Army Intell had a "Harvey Lee Oswald" on file, but all those files have been destroyed. Many strange things were happening that day, and Lee Harvey Oswald had nothing to do with them. We had the entire Cabinet on a trip to the Far East. We had a third of a combat division returning from Germany in the air above the United States at the time of the shooting, and at 12:34 P.M., the entire telephone system went dead in Washington for a solid hour, and on the plane back to Washington, word was radioed from the White House Situation Room to Lyndon Johnson that one individual performed the assassination. Does that sound like a bunch of coincidences to you, Mr. Garrison? Not for one moment. The cabinet was out of the country to get their perception out of the way. The troops were in the air for possible riot control. The phones didn't work to keep the wrong stories from spreading if anything went wrong with the plan. Nothing was left to chance. I bet you there were even backup teams and cars on the other side of the underpass in the event that Kennedy got through wounded. They would have moved in with vehicles like they did with de Gaulle. He could not be allowed to escape alive.

The camera is on Jim, listening. This information is much greater than he ever envisioned, and he is stunned.

X pauses. X (CONT'D) -- "I never though things were the same after that. Vietnam started for real. There was an air of, I don't know, make-believe in the Pentagon and the CIA. Those of us who'd been in secret ops since the beginning knew the Warren Commission was fiction, but there was something ... deeper, uglier. And I knew Allen Dulles very well. I briefed him many a time in his house. He was also General Y's benefactor. But for the life of me I still can't figure out why Dulles was appointed to investigate Kennedy's death. The man who had fired him.

I got out in '64. I retired from the U.S. Air Force. JACKIE KENNEDY I never realized Kennedy was so dangerous to the establishment. Is that why? X (chuckles) That's the real question, isn't it - "Why?" - the "how" is just "scenery" for the suckers ... Oswald, Ruby, Cuba, Mafia, it keeps people guessing like a parlor game, but it prevents them from asking the most important question - Why? Why was Kennedy killed? Who benefitted? Who has the power to cover it up?,/b> ...

"You know in '61 right after the Bay of Pigs - very few people know about this - I participated in drawing up National Security Action Memos 55, 56, and 57. These are crucial documents, classified top secret, but basically in them Kennedy instructs General Lemnitzer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, that from here on forward ..."

FLASHBACK TO the Pentagon offices on a day in 1961. A document is moved by hand into Lemnitzer's office where we see a set of hands holding it while it's read. There's a look of surprise on Lemnitzer's face.

X (CONT'D) "... the Joint Chiefs of Staff would be wholly responsible for all covert paramilitary action in peacetime. This basically ended the reign of the CIA - "splintered it", as J.F.K. promised he would, into a "thousand pieces", - and now was ordering the military to help. This was unprecedented. I can't tell you the shock waves this sent along the corridors of power in Washington. This and, of course, firing Allen Dulles, Richard Bissell, and General Charles Cabell, all of them sacred cows of Intell since World War II. You got some very upset people here.

DOCUMENTARY IMAGES flash on the screen - Allen Dulles, sweet-faced, smiling, at the Warren Commission Hearing and visiting Dealey Plaza; General Charles Cabell and Richard Bissell ...

X (CONT'D) - "Kennedy's directives were never really implemented, because of bureaucratic resistance, but one of the results was that the Cuban operation was turned over to my department as "Operation Mongoose", which meant that people like my superior officer, General Y, took over the Cuban personnel that were being trained to invade Cuba - and the bases like the training camp at Pontchartrain in your home state that were closed down by Kennedy ... and that's how the "black ops" people, people like General Y, ended up taking the rules of covert warfare they'd used abroad and brought'em into this country. Now they had the people, the equipment, bases and the motivation ... check out an old CIA man, Bill Harvey - ran something called "Executive Action", which carried out foreign assassinations. Harvey was also involved with the fake defection program that got Oswald into Russia. Check out the Cabell brothers. Interesting links to this case."

At Arlington Cemetery on the same day, Jim visits the grave of President Kennedy. We see the eternal flame. Jim thinks about what he should do now. The size of it stuns him. He is lost, reeling back to the past in his mind. -- DISSOLVE TO DOCUMENTARY FOOTAGE of Dachau concentration camp: thousands of bodies are piled and bulldozed ... And then back to Jim at Arlington Cemetery reliving it ... only the enormity of past evil can prepare him to confront present evil. In a strange way, it reassures him.

X (CONT'D) "... don't underestimate the budget cuts Kennedy called for in March of '63 either - close to 52 military installations in 25 states, 21 overseas bases, you're talking big money. You know how many helicopters have been lost in Vietnam? About three thousand so far. Who makes them? Bell Helicopter. Who owns Bell? Bell was near bankruptcy when the First National Bank of Boston approached the CIA about developing the helicopter for Indochina usage. How 'bout the f-111 fighters? General Dynamics in Fort Worth. Who owns that? Find out the defence budget since the war began. $75 going on a hundred billion ... $200 billion'll be spent before it ends. In 1950 it was $13 billion. No war, no money. Sometimes I think the organizing principle of any society is for war. The authority of the state over it's people resides in it's war powers. Even Eisenhower - military hero of WWII - warned us about it: "beware the military - industrial complex", he said.

Kennedy wanted to end the Cold War in his second term. He wanted to call off the moon race in favor of cooperation with the Soviets. He signed a treaty with the Soviets to ban nuclear testing, he refused to invade Cuba in '62, and he set out to withdraw from Vietnam. But that all ended on November 22, 1963."

FLASHBACK TO the White House, 1963. Lyndon Johnson is with Henry Cabot Lodge. We see them as shadowy figures from a distance across the wide room, or near a veranda with a porch and plenty of light. Johnson, his back to us, talks in a loud, thick Texas drawl (mostly muted) and signs a document.

X (CONT'D) - "Only four days after J.F.K. was shot, Lyndon Johnson signed National Security Memo 273, which essentially reversed Kennedy's new withdrawal policy and gave the green light to the covert operations against North Vietnam that provoked the Gulf of Tonkin incident. In that document lay the Vietnam War.

In the park with X, Jim is staggered by all this information. X ceases walking and looks at Jim. JIM I don't ... I can't believe it. They killed him because he wanted to change things. In our time - in our country?

X (shrugging) Kings are killed, Mr. Garrison. Politics is power, nothing more. But don't believe me. Don't trust me. Do your own work, your own thinking. JIM The size of this is ... beyond me."

Testify? X - " No chance in hell, Mr. Garrison. I'd be arrested and gagged, declared insane and hospitalized ... maybe worse. You, too. I can only give you background, you got to find the foreground, the little things ... Keep digging. Y'know you're the only person to ever bring a trial in the murder of John Kennedy. That's important - it's historic. JIM I haven't yet. I don't have much of a case."

X (rising to leave)"But you don't have a choice anymore. You've become a significant threat to the national security structure. They would've killed you already, but you got a lot of light on you. Instead, they're gonna destroy your credibility; they already have in many circles in this town. You're some kinda ego-crazed southern caricature to many folks. Be honest - the best chance you got is come up with a case, something, anything, make arrests, stir the shitstorm. You gotta hope to reach a point of critical mass where other people will come forward and the government will crack."

"Remember, fundamentally people are suckers for the truth, and the truth is on your side, 'bubba. I hope you get a break ...

Jim watches this mystery man walking away. The figure vanishes in the Washington breeze. Flags flap over some distant memorial to some distant history of the Republic. Jim rises, a decision made.

*****

I'm sorry, I'm too tired...... you put the paragraph breaks in. This is most of the truth that needs to be known.

40 posted on 07/24/2006 10:45:47 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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