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NY: Police Confiscate 'Cop Killer' Gun In Far Rockaway
Times Ledger (NY) ^ | 7/21/06 | Stephen Stirling

Posted on 07/22/2006 12:13:33 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim

Police confiscate 'cop killer' gun in Far rockaway

By:Stephen Stirling 07/21/2006

Police in Far Rockaway arrested and charged three youths with criminal possession of a weapon Wednesday after a search of their home yielded a powerful type of handgun that has been responsible for more than two-thirds of police officer deaths since 1994, according to the Queens district attorney.

Police executed a court-authorized raid of the home of William Davis, 21, brother Clarence Davis, 18, and friend Gquan Lloyd, 18, Wednesday morning and found a notoriously powerful Fabrique Nationale 5.7 handgun along with another less-powerful handgun and a bag of cocaine, according to DA Richard Brown. The gun, called a "cop killer" by many for its ability to pierce 48 layers of bullet-proof Kevlar, is the first of its type to be recovered by authorities in New York City.

"The FN 5.7 is a lethal handgun imported from Belgium and capable of easily penetrating most police vets and plates," Brown said. "While this is the first time that such a deadly weapon has been recovered in New York City, its presence is troubling and makes the job of street cops that much more dangerous." Since 1994, 425 of the 616 police officers killed in the line of duty have been killed with a FN 5.7, the DA said.

The three Far Rockaway residents, all of the Hammel Houses on 81-10 Rockaway Beach Blvd., were arraigned Thursday on charges of criminal possession of a weapon and a controlled substance at Queens Criminal Court in Kew Gardens. If convicted, each could spend up to 15 years in prison.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New York
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1 posted on 07/22/2006 12:13:34 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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2 posted on 07/22/2006 12:15:21 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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"Since 1994, 425 of the 616 police officers killed in the line of duty have been killed with a FN 5.7, the DA said."

This sounds BS. Wonder where it came from?

3 posted on 07/22/2006 12:16:20 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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Just finish disarming all of the honest people and this problem will go away. /SARC
4 posted on 07/22/2006 12:16:36 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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...pierce 48 layers of bullet-proof Kevlar...

If it'll pierce bullet-proof Kevlar, then the Kevlar ain't bullet-proof, is it?

5 posted on 07/22/2006 12:17:26 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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"The FN 5.7 is a lethal handgun imported from Belgium and capable of easily penetrating most police vets and plates," Brown said. "While this is the first time that such a deadly weapon has been recovered in New York City, its presence is troubling and makes the job of street cops that much more dangerous." Since 1994, 425 of the 616 police officers killed in the line of duty have been killed with a FN 5.7, the DA said.

There is no way on God's Green Earth that this statement is true.

6 posted on 07/22/2006 12:18:08 PM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up two (2) seats in the Senate and four (4) seats in the House in 2006)
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Since 1994, 425 of the 616 police officers killed in the line of duty have been killed with a FN 5.7, the DA said.

Some how I find this hard to believe.


7 posted on 07/22/2006 12:18:15 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Wait wait wait wait wait...

Aren't all high caliber hand guns "cop killer"? Won't a .44 mag, casul, or the more recent .50 mag go right through a bullet proof vest? I have never heard of this gun before, what makes this so much more lethal then the ones I just mentioned?


8 posted on 07/22/2006 12:21:03 PM PDT by mojo_the_migo
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I don't think the FN in 5.7 Cal has been around since 1994. More like 2000-2004


9 posted on 07/22/2006 12:22:29 PM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Eagles6

Yeah, I'm with you my bullshit alarm just went off.


10 posted on 07/22/2006 12:23:08 PM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: mojo_the_migo

There is no such thing as a bullet proof vest. The correct term for the NYC mayor is bullet resistant vest. LE does not walk around in body armor, which is bullet proof, to some extent.


11 posted on 07/22/2006 12:25:47 PM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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"From 1994 to 2003 of the 616 officers killed in the line of duty 425 were killed with a handgun. Just last year (2003), nationwide there were 1,866 officers assaulted with firearms. There is a new tool on the market that all officers MUST BE AWARE of. The FN 5.7 The FN 5.7 is now available for purchase on the civilian market. I personally saw three of these being used at a private shooting range here in our city. You can pick one up at your local gun shop."

Sounds similar to this.

From:

http://www.opoa.info/Newsletters/newsletterWinter05.htm

12 posted on 07/22/2006 12:27:30 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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These are very very poweful handguns. I have 10 of them that I issue to my employees in my tree removal business. It's more costly to cut trees down with these, but they are much faster than chain saws, especially on 48 inch diameter oaks. My only problem is finding illegal aliens big enough to handle the massive recoil.


13 posted on 07/22/2006 12:28:15 PM PDT by umgud (Gov't needs a Department of Common Sense)
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I've read on the user web board a lot of complaints about the plastic construction. And the ammo is a pain [$$, components are not easily available]. It needs to be re-chambered to a suitable wildcat, and made in decent steel.


14 posted on 07/22/2006 12:28:36 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: kiriath_jearim

Just about any rifle will pierce kevlar vests, but I do not believe that the 5.7 has killed THAT many police.


15 posted on 07/22/2006 12:29:58 PM PDT by OldEagle (May you live long enough to hear the legends of your own adventures.)
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To: Paladin2
Google also finds here:

www.blackwaterusa.com/btw2004/archive/120604btw.html

16 posted on 07/22/2006 12:31:54 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: umgud

Are you the guy who keeps shooting down the satellites? Knock it off, willya?


17 posted on 07/22/2006 12:35:17 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Since 1994, 425 of the 616 police officers killed in the line of duty have been killed with a FN 5.7, the DA said.

That is an absolute god dang lie.

I live in NYC, we do not average 50 cops killed per year.

That is garbage, 50 cops killed a year for the last 12 years?

2/3 of them from the same kind of weapon?

If this number includes (or even if it doesn't include) cops killed on 9/11, the number is preposterious.

18 posted on 07/22/2006 12:37:53 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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LOL! 10,000 comics out of work and you're doing it for free.


19 posted on 07/22/2006 12:39:55 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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I can see them now...loading cop killer bullets in their cop killer gun while Ice T sings Cop Killer.
20 posted on 07/22/2006 12:41:43 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)
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