Code Pink Hags Caught Stealing Burma Shave Signs at Walter Reed (7/21/06)

July 21, 2006 | Kristinn

[kristinn]

Once again, the peace activist, free speech advocating hags from Code Pink stole some of the D.C. Chapter's signs outside Walter Reed.

Last week, we debuted Burma Shave style signs in an effort to inform the public that they should not be fooled into thinking the Code Pink demonstrators at Walter Reed love this country. The signs worked as drivers of cars who honked for our patriotic demonstration at the main gate were markedly less inclined to be fooled by the two American flags displayed by the Pinkos and also honk for them.

The Burma Shave signs were having the same effect tonight, much to the frustration of the Pinkos. Around 8:25 p.m., after the signs had been displayed for about an hour, we saw one of the Pinkos stealing the signs off the roofs of our cars. He tried to throw them over the Walter Reed fence and took off running after he realized he'd been found out. He had stolen three of the four signs, two of which he managed to toss over the fence while the third landed right in front of the fence.

A brief scrum took place as both sides rushed to confront each other. Cooler heads quickly prevailed and tempers defused.

The thief explained his actions by saying our signs are "offensive, they're namecalling, they're disrespectful to our women, alright. And we will not have our women disrespected." (This from a man who stands outside a military hospital with people who routinely call our wounded soldiers killers, murderers and war criminals.)

We informed the Pinkos that our use of the word "hags" was not gender specific. We meant it for their "men" also.

Several officers from Walter Reed security went down and warned the Pinkos not to steal our signs again and to not throw things over the fence on to Walter Reed property.

[soccermom]

First of all, there is nothing wrong describing Behar and O'Donnell as "loud-mouth east coast liberals". That is precisely what they are and they wouldn't deny it. That is a far cry from calling them "hags" or "harpies." It is a characterization of actions, not an ad hominem attack. As for calling Wilson an idiot, as I recall I was affirming what someone else said about him. If you want to call that a personal attack, go ahead. But if that is the best you can come up with from all my posts, that is pretty weak. And, yes, I have been critical of Ann's personal attacks. I find it "weird" that so many conservatives, who are presumably Christian, see nothing wrong with slander -- so long as it is done by someone on their side.

[soccermom]

"When she shows up at Walter Reed to hold a sign or wave HI to a soldier leaving WRAMC I will apologize." Please spare me your lectures about what I need to do to support the troops. I live nowhere near Walter Reed. I am the daughter of a Vietnam War and career AF fighter pilot. I am the wife of a former Air Force officer. I have attended numerous pro-troop rallies in my area. Incidentally, everyone there loved my signs which were positive and devoid of personal attacks. My husband and I purchased 2 nights at a bed and breakfast and a gift certificate to a restaurant to donate to a returning soldier and his wife -- a couple we don't know and have never met. If making personal attacks at the political enemy is what you require as bona fide credentials for support for our troops, I feel sorry for you.

[soccermom]

"Look your advice is worthless, so stop bothering people. The intent was to identify these people to the public and demoralize them. Mission Accomplished. You don't like it, do something else. Don't get in the way of success."

That is the whole point. Personal attacks are not successful -- they are counterproductive. Calling them "hags" doesn't demoralize them -- it energizes them. Remember all the personal attacks made against President Bush before the '04 election? Did that demoralize his supporters or fire them up? As a matter of fact, I think it was the personal attacks against Bush that garnered sympathy and support for him from those who were undecided.

Here is a thread where freepers relished Daily Kos being exposed as the rude, nasty people they are: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1657039/posts I would like to think that Free Republic has higher standards. According to the rules, we are supposed to have higher standards. And, as I understand it the DC chapter has those standards as well. If everyone is agreeing with you and behaving civilly, of course you aren't going to attack them personally. The whole point of the rules is to guide your behavior when someone doesn't agree with you or behave civally. So what is the point of the rules and standards if you're going to ignore them when it isn't convenient?

As for "bothering" people, I made one simple post in which I merely suggested refraining from personal attacks, to which I was responded with a barrage of posts from multiple people in manner in which you would think I had suggested Cindy Sheehan be cannonized. I made a post to one person and you guys made unsolicited responses. I generally respond to people who post to me. So if you don't want to be "bothered", then don't post to me in the first place!

[RonDog]

Give me an example in the form of a Burma Shave ad.

Here is an ORIGINAL series of "Burma Shave" signs, from www.richardfranke.com:

[tgslTakoma]

Give up.

You don't know what you are talking about.

And that is painfully obvious when you offer your advice, (as if you are talking to a cub scout pack) on how to deal with traitorous political adversaries who: 1) fund the people who are killing and maiming our troops, 2) fund the American road tour of Baathist apologists who are accusing our troops of being rapists, murderers and war criminals, 3) stalk members of our (US) administration - demonstrating at their homes and trying to get into their homes, 4) stalk and assault people who disagree with their marxist agenda, 5) disrupt public meetings, hearings, conventions, fundraisers, and even the 2005 inauguration, 6) stalk, harrass, browbeat and insult family members of wounded and KIA soldiers...

Now, please go back to knitting pink mufflers with doe-eyed kittens on them, for the misguided, but loveable gals of Code Pink...

[RonDog]

And here is the NEW version, from HAIRY CODEPINKOS GET BURMA-SHAVED:
Walter Reed FReep, Week 65, 7/14/06:

The signs read from NEAREST to FARTHEST, the way cars see them as they drive through our rally towards the Pinko camp. In the distance, the Code Pink Mad Hatters are visible. FReeper GunsAreOK (right).
See Georgia Avenue as we see it -- click here to enlarge photo.

[Stegall Tx]

If you see the gals
from Code Pink are crying,
They're only upset
that the bad guys are dying.

[publana]

I agree that it's a bit too long for small signs, but lame? I thought it was actually great!

I think soccermom was thinking more along the lines of persuading fence-sitters to our side, rather than defending our wounded troops and putting smiles on their faces. I'm guessing here, but I suspect she doesn't realize that the car horns honking are offensive to our soldiers in the hospital and their families. The object of the game is to silence the horns. (Frankly, I think the "finger" Freeper Shave is excellent for that endeavor! LOL)

Cut her some slack, guys. "Hags", while perfect for the intended use at Walter Reed, could be construed in another setting as being as simple as the enemy. I didn't "get it" at first either, until I actually saw the pic, realized that honking meant support for the pinkos, and wanted those horns silenced in the most expedient manner.

Bravo to all of you DC Freepers! I hope to eventually be able to join you and will gladly hold a sign that says "hag" or "hag with an f" or "f with a u", something I would not have thought I'd do (sign with such language not the actual sign-holding itself) prior to reading this thread in its entirity. Bless you all! :)

[Doctor Raoul]

Bitchy is as bitchy does...

[Doctor Raoul]

You claimed it didn't work. The reality is it does, so you are wrong. It didn't energize them, it demoralized them. You are never there, how would you know.

We drove ANSWERs numbers down by 99% using our ideas. You weren't doing squat.

All you have is your claims about your theory. We've got results.

Hope that helps.

As far as the DailyKos, I only read it for insider stock tips, otherwise I don't care.

[Doctor Raoul]

I think soccermom was thinking more along the lines of persuading fence-sitters to our side...

There are no fence sitters. Soccermom is so invsted in what others think, she sounds like a liberal, because group think is so important to liberals.

The amazing thing is that in a city that voted like 90% (some fantastically high percentage if not 90%) for Kerry has rejected Code Pink.

Once these signs made it clear who THEY are, they get very little public affirmation. It's very perceptable. Also, they are down to the hardcore of CP. And have been for some time now. The same few junior leaders, communists, dedicated America haters and soicial misfits. There's not one you'd want to marry into your family.

The local "peace actiists" don't even support them. It CP and some VFP and that's about it.

You can tell by their body language it's no fun for them. They arrive late and leave promptly, if not a little early. The "newbies" don't come back.

[maica]

Soccermom demands that we not use the word "hags." We acknowledge her right to say that. I consider her posts now to have as much impact as a bttt.


She should acknowledge our right to demonstrate at Walter Reed in the way we consider to be effective, and gracefully go to another thread.

Glad I don't have to show up at soccer practice where her kids play.

[soccermom]

"Now, please go back to knitting pink mufflers with doe-eyed kittens on them, for the misguided, but loveable gals of Code Pink..."

That post speaks volumes about the mentality of you and many here. Merely suggesting that Freepers adhere to their own rules, which are to refrain from personal attacks, is twisted in your viewpoint to support for Code Pink. The leaps of logic around here are astounding!

[soccermom]

"I think soccermom was thinking more along the lines of persuading fence-sitters to our side," exactly!

"rather than defending our wounded troops and putting smiles on their faces. I'm guessing here, but I suspect she doesn't realize that the car horns honking are offensive to our soldiers in the hospital and their families. The object of the game is to silence the horns." Fair enough. In the sense that it silenced horns for them, it was effective. I still don't see how the same result couldn't be achieved by accurately calling them "socialists in drag" rather than "Pinko Hags". Either way, you would silence horns of support for them -- but w/o the "hag" word, they have nothing to point to as justification for stealing the signs -- unless they are going to admit to be ashamed of being socialists masquerading as patriots.

Thanks for taking the time to understand my point, rather than being reactionary.

[soccermom]

"There are no fence sitters. Soccermom is so invsted in what others think, she sounds like a liberal, because group think is so important to liberals."

The fact is there are fence sitters and to pretend otherwise is to deny political realities. Roughly 30% of the electorate is conservative and will vote that way regardless and roughly 30% are liberal. The remaining 40% is up for grabs at each election. And it DOES matter what they think.

Those who point to the mean behavior of liberals and complain that we need to counter it accordingly need to look at recent history. They complain about the way liberals used the Wellstone funeral as a political rally, but how did that work out for liberals? Democrats lost in an unprecedented tsunanmi. The American people were capable of seeing the shameless exploitation for what it was. People complain about the hateful distortions of Michael Moore. If we were to follow your logic and look at the "success" of F-9/11, we would have to think that Americans were on the side of the left. But that was just a case of the choir paying homage to their preacher. Did Bush stoop to Moore's level? No. He remained above him. The "fence sitters" saw Moore's attacks as unfair and that garners support for Bush.

Box office results, books sales and "horn honks" are not an accurate indication of public opinion. During the 2000 election, I lived in a "blue" state. I stood with others doing sign-waving and given our "horn count" ratio, I naively thought Bush had a chance in that state. He lost handily.

If your goal was to drive down the "horn honks" for Code Pink, that could have just as easily been accomplished by using a word other than "hags". Do you seriously think people driving by were less inclined to honk for them because of that word? If I were driving down there, I wouldn't be honking for them regardless. The choice of the word "hag" wouldn't have made a difference --- however it could be off-putting to those who are fence-sitters and that is my point. In the sense that you were trying to get people not to be fooled by their flags, I agree it was effective --- but that would have been successful regardless of whether or not the word "hags" was employed.

As I said earlier, if you consider "the war" to be making the other side "feel bad or mad", knock yourself out. Personally, I think "the war" is about winning fence sitters to our side. In that sense, "horn honks" are about as effective a reflection of public opinion as "freeped" polls.

[soccermom]

"Glad I don't have to show up at soccer practice where her kids play." Excellent point. The Diocese in which my children play all sports -- football, basketball, volleyball, etc. in addition to soccer -- has a code of conduct for parents. I don't need to say anything because the parents actually adhere to the code. Unlike here, where people choose to ignore the very standards established by FR. You're right. You probably wouldn't feel comfortable at our games where parents actually cheer for their kids and refrain from attacking other parents, coaches and refs. Hockey games in New Joisey, where one dad actually killed another dad over a game, are probably more to your liking.

[Quix]

WONDERFUL FREEPER SAVE

WORD SEQUENCES.

CONGRATS!

PLEASE

KEEP UP

THE GOOD WORK.

[Quix]

Oh, Dear!

Helen Thumbas and Babs Strivinginthesand . . .

no real surprise, there . . . guess they still haven't managed to find a few cartons of sanity and several gallons of couth at 7/11.

Traitorous idiots.

[tgslTakoma]

Unfortunately for you, you won't do anything but offer your wisdom on how everybody else is doing things all wrong.

It is sad to see a person (you) spend all her online time here cluelessly badmouthing other folks' activism.

Some people see a disgusting injustice and say, "Something oughta be done!" Well, we're here in DC, we saw a disgusting injustice, and we said, "Let's do something about it!"

Not all of our strategy is shared in the open forum; and even if we explained it to you chapter and verse, I don't think it would matter to you.

Your posting history is informative. You have persevorated for months about Ann Coulter and repeatedly and vociferously criticized her writing style. Many folks on those threads grew tired of your behavior; so now you have found a new target to focus all your energies on.

Lucky us.

Keep it up. You're looking alot like a harpie yourself.

[Quix]

tgslTakoma
"As long as they continue to call our soldiers murderers, rapists, war criminals, etc., I'll keep calling Code Pinkos what they are."
= = = =

I VERY MUCH agree.

I can understand the issue of winning over the middle-of-the-roaders--really is a crucial goal and fight.

And, I can understand, as a Christian, avoiding stooping to the level of a lot of traitors and naysayers.

As a shrink, I know that many times, certain folks with certain kinds of mentality and dynamics . . . will not have the least bit of a clue unless and until one speaks, at least somewhat, their language.

I don't know where the fine line is and it's probably not a static line.

Calling Code Pink hags seems rather mild, to me.

To me, something more along the line of her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous--Bw*tch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de Marx de Machiavelli de Pol Pot de Stalin de Arafart de Mao . . . de Sade

would be more fitting. But how would that translate to the Code Pink Hags . . . thinking out loud through my fingers here . . .

CODE PINKO TWITCHES
THEIR CAULDRON
STIRRING SWITCHES;
BOILING MORE
POISON AND ACID
TO MAKE UP
FOR THEIR
LIMP AND FLACID.

too something . . . trying again . . .

CODE PREASONOUS TREASONOUS
SOILING THEIR OWN NEST
WITH POOPY IN THE EARS
OF OUR TALLEST AND BEST.
SEEMS LIKE THEIR FEARS
ARE DEMOCRACY WILL WIN
'CAUSE TYRANNY & AL QAEDA
ARE MURDEROUSLY GUILTY
AS CODE PINKO & SIN

too wordy . . .

CODE COMMIES ARE
FLINGING IT AGAIN.
TRAITOROUS EVIL
SHOVED IN THE EARS
OF OUR PROTECTIVE
BRIGHTEST AND BEST
N NEED OF HUGS & REST.
CAN U FINGER THE 1'S
WHO SOIL THEIR OWN NEST?

still too wordy.

CODE COMMIES
R ON THE MARX
AGAIN.
STOP THEIR
MAD STOMP
BY SHOWING
YOUR DISGUST.

CODE COMMIES
R RAGING AGAIN.
SCREAMING TREASON
FOR EVIL TO WIN.
FLUSH THEIR EVILS
BY FINGERING THEIR SIN.

ah well . . . need to move along.