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Scientists Strengthen Case for Life on Earth More Than 3.8 Billion Years Ago
UCLA News ^ | 20 July 2006 | Staff (press release)

Posted on 07/21/2006 8:08:04 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: PatrickHenry
Life starting this soon after the cool down dramatically shortens the time for life to start. It almost seems necessary for Earth to have been seeded with amino acids and sugars from space.

If the origin of those complex molecules is space then that would suggest the possibility of many other planets/planetesimals being supplied with the same molecules.

If Gould is correct in his concept of contingency where intelligence is not an expected or ubiquitous outcome we could be surrounded by life and never know it. Even if we develop methods of measuring 'entropy decrease' on planets orbiting nearby stars, there may be cases such a Europa where life could exist without impacting the atmosphere.
21 posted on 07/21/2006 8:33:57 AM PDT by b_sharp (Why bother with a tagline? Even they eventually wear out! (Second Law of Taglines))
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To: gcruse

No. When the earth was formed it had to have something, were the oceans completely empty? So, life as defined by a cell has existed for as long as the earth has.

If they define life as human - then we have a different issue. We know the ice caves in france show humans here 20,000 years ago. In Australia, digs have shown "humans" here 40 million years ago - so it just adds to the discussion 3 Billion is a long, long time and either it acheived nothing for billions of years or we have grown, destroyed ourselves and repeated the cycle many times.


22 posted on 07/21/2006 8:33:59 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: gcruse
"Does "life" mean human life or single cell organisms"

Is this an abortion related question?


Apparently life is defined as single cell prokaryotes. Groupings of eukaryotic cells, especially those that are pre-mammalian in nature, need not apply.
23 posted on 07/21/2006 8:36:41 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: edcoil
"We know the ice caves in france show humans here 20,000 years ago. In Australia, digs have shown "humans" here 40 million years ago"

Cites please.

24 posted on 07/21/2006 8:37:17 AM PDT by b_sharp (Why bother with a tagline? Even they eventually wear out! (Second Law of Taglines))
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To: PatrickHenry

Isn't it possible that the layer of rock was inhabited later, possibly much later, than its original formation and that this later habitation produced the carbon isotope differential?


25 posted on 07/21/2006 8:37:35 AM PDT by edsheppa
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To: b_sharp

NSTA - Science News

Fossils of Umoonasaurus have been found in Australian opal mines since the late ... Evidence of complex life older than 540 million years is hard to study. ...
www.nsta.org/sciencenews/&category_ID=270 - 92k - Cached - Similar pages


26 posted on 07/21/2006 8:40:03 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: dead
the laws of gravity

Is there more than one? Is there one at all, aside from gravity appears to increase with age?

27 posted on 07/21/2006 8:40:45 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Element187
"wow more articles that disprove alot of what is said in the bible.... i think its time to write another new testament in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1.."

IF the Bible claimed this earth was a mere 6,000 years old then there would be a need to add to or take away. Evolutionists have not read with understanding as NOWHERE in the Bible does it give the AGE of this earth, rather it says there will be three different earth AGES, and man in flesh is in the second AGE.
28 posted on 07/21/2006 8:41:14 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Element187

> wow more articles that disprove alot of what is said in the bible.... i think its time to write another new testament in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1..

Actually, what this means is that life appeared closer to the creation of the world... which wouldn't contridict the Bible.


29 posted on 07/21/2006 8:42:18 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: Lazamataz

That's funny.


30 posted on 07/21/2006 8:42:29 AM PDT by phantomworker ("I wouldn't hurt you for the world, but you are standing where I am about to shoot." --Quaker quote)
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To: PatrickHenry
Guillermo Gonzalez & Jay W Richards, The Privileged Planet
31 posted on 07/21/2006 8:44:21 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: edcoil

Your citation says absolutely nothing about any humans being found 40 million years ago.


32 posted on 07/21/2006 8:45:07 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

"Evolutionists have not read with understanding as NOWHERE in the Bible does it give the AGE of this earth, rather it says there will be three different earth AGES, and man in flesh is in the second AGE."

Actually, that would be CREATIONISTS (YEC) who have misread the Bible. They are the ones insisting that the Bible says the Earth is 6,000 years old, not evolutionists.


33 posted on 07/21/2006 8:47:00 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

"Actually, that would be CREATIONISTS (YEC) who have misread the Bible. They are the ones insisting that the Bible says the Earth is 6,000 years old, not evolutionists."

So the person wowing the need for an addition to the Bible is really a YEC????


34 posted on 07/21/2006 8:48:34 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: RightWhale
Nature eats the evidence of its origins.

True, in the case of these rocks there are not many ancient rocks remaining because so much of the earth's crust has been subducted back into the mantle since the crust first formed.

35 posted on 07/21/2006 8:57:49 AM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: Just mythoughts
articles that disprove alot of what is said in the bible

To disprove the Bible and faith in a creator is to suggest that an infinite God cannot, in an instant, create a rock that is at once billions of years old.

36 posted on 07/21/2006 9:01:24 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: Just mythoughts
"So the person wowing the need for an addition to the Bible is really a YEC????"

No, but the people who see the Bible as requiring a 6,000 year old earth are YEC's, not evolutionists as you claim.
37 posted on 07/21/2006 9:02:44 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: gcruse
"Nature eats the evidence of its origins."

In this case, like the cheshire cat's smile, nature ate but left its apatite behind. ;)

!

If lunch fills your gaping apatite,is the whole thing now leftovers, or is it now an empty apatite?
38 posted on 07/21/2006 9:07:34 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: MosesKnows

He could, but I thought God was supposed to be truthful.


39 posted on 07/21/2006 9:11:24 AM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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To: Element187

"wow more articles that disprove alot of what is said in the bible.... i think its time to write another new testament in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1.."

What specifically in this article disproves what is said in the Bible, element?


40 posted on 07/21/2006 9:11:39 AM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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