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To: The Lion Roars; Jeff Head
From http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/c-802.htm

"Since the missile has a small radar reflectivity and is only about five to seven meters above the sea surface when it attacks the target, and since its guidance equipment has strong anti-jamming capability, target ships have a very low success rate in intercepting the missile. The hit probability of the Yingji-802 is estimated to be as high as 98 percent. The Yingji-802 can be launched from airplanes, ships, submarines and land-based vehicles, and is considered along with the US "Harpoon" as among the best anti-ship missiles of the present-day world."

Ridiculous on the part of the israeli navy to loose a ship.

They didn't loose the ship, it was damaged, which makes me doubt the missile was a C-802. A corvette-sized ship would take some serious damage from a 165 kg warhead, and this missile also requires a fair amount of infrastructure. Two guys don't just carry one down to the beach and fire it.

24 posted on 07/15/2006 8:35:26 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY; The Lion Roars
It was a Saar 5 that has two 32 cell Baraks and a phalanx CIWS.

I believe the Iranians were certainly involved and owuld not be surprised to lear of Chinese advisiors as well. It is a Chhinese designed missile and can be fired from land-based, mobile installations.

This thing was desgined specifically for this type of engagement and yet was defeated and mission killed. Huge development, not only in terms of escalation in this conflict, but in terms of ramifications for poricedures and technology all over. Analysts will be deeply into this one from every modern nation. Some (our side) to beafen up defenses and protect against future ones, others (the other side) to exploit weakness.

37 posted on 07/15/2006 8:43:54 AM PDT by Jeff Head (God, family, country)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it was a close-aboard detonation, which would indicate that the CWIS actually did it's job (and illustrates why you don't want to rely on it).

Silkwork has a delay fuse, like Harpoon. If it had penetrated, at best this ship would have been abandoned.


113 posted on 07/15/2006 10:20:50 AM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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To: GATOR NAVY; Wristpin

all the 'infrastructure' a c-802 takes is the proper vehicle; no ground "site" to launch from.
The katyushas that hezbollah is firing aren't palestinian style homemade rockets, they're 132 mm soviet artillery rockets and are, like a c-802, also vehicle launched, and they don't seem to have problems with that 'infrastructure'...
Hezbollah is not just another Hamas; it is a well funded, decently trained and surprisingly well equipped militia, all complements of our dear friends over in Iran. If it can flown in from Iran, (i.e. anything lighter than a tank), than odds are Hezbollah has a handful of 'em.


181 posted on 07/15/2006 9:44:48 PM PDT by verum ago (Proper foreign policy makes loud noises.)
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To: GATOR NAVY; Wristpin

oh yeah, and the c-802 is radar guided, and Israel has sinced bombed Lebanpn's coastals radars out of existence...


182 posted on 07/15/2006 9:50:37 PM PDT by verum ago (Proper foreign policy makes loud noises.)
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