Angelides touts bond package (Agrees with Schwarzenegger on $37 billion bond package)

The Argus ^ | Erik N. Nelson

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Not true. I never heard about its illegality and it was vetoed long before it made it to the courts. Arnold saved us (me) some money.

Not true because you haven't heard of it? It was a fee that functioned as a tax, not passed by a legislative supermajority.

Never heard that. If it were true, they'd have given us it already.

Equine feces. Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

Re Driver LicensesNope- Gill Sedition-illo, has presented it over and over. It hasn't gone away by referendum. There is another vestion of it in committee as we write.

Which has NOTHING to do with the fact that there was a referendum on the way to cancel SB-60.

This is total misdirection on your part. Here's a little demonstration of how misleading your post really is:

Schwarzenegger on Driver Licenses for illegal aliens during a January 2004 Interview with Univision:

We are right now in the middle of working very hard with Senator Cedillo. My staff and his staff. Everyone is working together. And we are absolutely positive that we will come up with a great bill. With his help and with my team's help, I think we will work it out. So there's, uh, really a good move forward.

Interviewer: How would you deal with more conservative members of the legislature...?

Schwarzenegger: Again, it's one of those things where we all have to get together and see that this is a good idea and this is the way to move forward. So, I am talking to my Republican friends all the time about it, and also to my Democratic friends. We will do it.

Washington Times, 3/02/04

"Our staffs have met, and they're working on this together," said Vincent Salido, spokesman for the Republican governor

Schwarzenegger on Driver Licenses for illegal aliens during a December 2003 Interview with Dan Weintraub:

Reporter: "You did say that to me when we talked one on one (Sept. 6, 2003) that you would consider a package deal that would have included a requirement of insurance for those people that are going to get the drivers license. That I know is something that you believe in. Do you also believe that all undocumented immigrants will be able to get a drivers license if they present insurance, if they have a background check, fingerprints?

Governor: "Absolutely...yes. This is what we are going to work on. This is what we are going to talk about, but right now the most important thing is to get this passed (the repeal of SB 60) so we can move to other issues. I think Senator Cedillo was extremely gracious and helpful with this whole thing. He is a great leader, he understood what would be the best thing for California; rather than just doing an immediate fix, but to make everybody happy. It doesn't make sense if the majority of Californians run around and hate the idea of undocumented immigrants having drivers licenses because there is no background check, because it doesn't solve the problem with insurance. Let's do it the right way, let's make every Californian happy and let's make the undocumented immigrants happy."

Against it eh? What a load.

Re raising local taxes: No they didn't. There was no tax increase the in the last state budget.

You are up to the level of professional with this one. I never said anything about State taxes, although with all the borrowing he's initiated and the way he bent over for the unions, it's becoming inevitiable. In fact, higher taxes are preferable to borrowing to cover current expenditures which Arnold has done in spades.

Schwarzenegger's first budget took 1.3 billion from local government revenues. Do you think they spent less? How do you think they made it up? Further, he has substantially raised FEES, something normal people regard as taxes by another name.

Re socialized medicine:Which we already have in the form of the "Healthy Families" initiative.

Which Arnold wants to expand.

Just wait until Silicon Valley technogeeks forced into healthcare brought to you by the DMV! I can't think of a better way to convince the people of California to vote for Tom McClintock and other conservatives than for the Slave Party to try and institute socialized medicine.

Arnold is way different than Angelides.

Oh, instead of appointing a majority of Democrats to State offices with the balance made up by "moderates," he'll make sure it's 100%! Big deal. The only difference is that Arnold's way to destruction is slower but more certain.

Angelides is not enough of a difference to make supporting Arnold worth the damage he is doing to the CRP, nor do I want Republicans to own the blame for the comeuppance attendant to his fiscal profligacy and leftist policies. All you offer is more of the same stupid fear mongering that got us into this mess.

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Arnold is way different than Angelides.

Which is why Tom McClintock supports him.

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Not true. I never heard about its illegality and it was vetoed long before it made it to the courts. Arnold saved us (me) some money. Not true because you haven't heard of it? It was a fee that functioned as a tax, not passed by a legislative supermajority.

It's not true because we were forced to pay for it no matter the legality. Welcome to Taxifornia.

Re Driver LicensesNope- Gill Sedition-illo, has presented it over and over. It hasn't gone away by referendum. There is another vestion of it in committee as we write. Which has NOTHING to do with the fact that there was a referendum on the way to cancel SB-60.

Which, by the way, wouldn't stop the likes of Gil Sedition-illo. I appreciate all the items you've linked on Arnold's ramblings, but I still maintain that letting Angelides win is worse.

Oh, instead of appointing a majority of Democrats to State offices with the balance made up by "moderates," he'll make sure it's 100%! Big deal. The only difference is that Arnold's way to destruction is slower but more certain

So, you would suggest not voting for either? Wouldn't that assure Angelides the Governorship? You say that a direct assault on every issue by a democRATic majority, suported by a democRAT governor is the only safe alternative? Because it is faster?