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Dissident CIA faction 'exposed'
Australia Advertiser ^ | July 10, 2006 | News

Posted on 07/09/2006 10:41:27 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: writch
You are learning fast.

You are right, the quote you picked is an important one, but that seems to be more a suspicion, than something supported by evidence ( or if there is evidence, it's not in Hoekstra's letter). I think that's why that part was not emphasized. But you are right, if true, it is highly disturbing.
81 posted on 07/10/2006 9:15:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: george76

Excellent chart "connecting the dots".


82 posted on 07/10/2006 9:16:42 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: pepperdog

"Now if someone would just do something about it!"


===

BINGO. And therein lies the problem.


83 posted on 07/10/2006 9:19:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion; Grampa Dave

The hat tip for the chart goes to Grampadave.


84 posted on 07/10/2006 9:19:53 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; Grampa Dave

Thanks. -- OK. Great chart, Grampa Dave! :)


85 posted on 07/10/2006 9:26:28 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: george76

one enhancement for your great graphic...
The heart icon needs to be in every photo (and two in the Plame/Wilson photo).

Because each of these cats is in love with themselves.


86 posted on 07/10/2006 9:42:00 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Jeff Chandler

We are weary of so called republicans criticizing the president when they should be outraged by the media.

This media bs has been going full bore since the mid 1960's. I'm surprised that some of the Bush haters on Free Republic don't try to blame that on GW. Hell he could have stopped it when he was in highshool and didn't.

Quit bitching about our president and aiding those who want to destroy America.


87 posted on 07/11/2006 7:59:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic Lies posing as journalism)
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To: ASA Vet; BIGLOOK

fyi


88 posted on 07/11/2006 8:18:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic Lies posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave
We are weary of so called republicans criticizing the president when they should be outraged by the media. Quit . . . aiding those who want to destroy America.

  1. I am not a Republican.
  2. Are you outraged when a snake bites you?
  3. The people who are aiding those who want to destroy America are those who refuse to prosecute the leakers.
  4. Expect to see more seditious leaks, because there is no negative consequence for lawbreaking if you are a Democrat.
  5. I will become a Republican when they decide to stand up to the Democrats.

89 posted on 07/11/2006 10:20:03 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: icwhatudo

The State Department is a lost cause and, infact, seems to infect anyone who goes there to work. CIA seems not far behind that group.


90 posted on 07/11/2006 10:24:04 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: jellybean
Did you read this?

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_4033701

91 posted on 07/11/2006 10:30:51 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

The funniest part of all this is, if you look at the history, the CIA was created specifically to 'solve' the problem of politicized intelligence.

It seems that Truman was distressed that he would get conflicting reports from State and Defense (and everyone else), all of them describing the situation from their own point of view (much like the fable of the blind men and the elephant).

He wanted a single agency to collect raw, unfiltered data.

While that is a noble goal, I doubt that it can really happen (at least, not for longer than four years, and most likely not longer than two).

He was already disgusted with his creation less than twenty years after he signed it into existance.

How do I know? Cause I have a copy of his op-ed from December 1963 where he wishes aloud that he could un-sign their charter (because they started going into black ops instead of just collecting intelligence).

I suspect that the timing of this op-ed has something to do with events the previous month, but that is merely noticing the timing, not anything concrete.

I would be happy to post it here, but I only know how to reply so far, and I am not sure whether protocol would be that I put it here in a reply, or start its own thread.

In the interim, just look for it on google. Search for: "The Washington Post December 22, 1963 - page A11"


92 posted on 07/11/2006 10:46:49 AM PDT by writch (Fiscally conservative, socially progressive, likes guns, and above all, only interested in the facts)
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To: writch

Posting is easy, but first check to see the rules for the particular source you are coming from... some require you do not excerpt any of the article, just a link, others like Front Page you can post the whole article.


93 posted on 07/11/2006 11:03:37 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: The Old Hoosier

Link?


94 posted on 07/11/2006 1:08:32 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: writch
If, as Rep. Hoekstra says, Porter Goss' mission was to de-politicize the department,

It was, or he wouldn't have taken the job.

and Steve Kappas really did quit when Goss was appointed

Uh, your timeline is messed up. He was essentially fired after he refused to fire an insubordinate hack who was manifestly over the line. He instead had "offered his resignation, not expecting it to be accepted. It was."

AND he quit because he was finding new ways to politicize the CIA, WHY is the administration putting him up as the deputy?

You tell me. Looks like a total cave-in by W

95 posted on 07/11/2006 1:12:42 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Paul Ross

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/RobertDNovak/2003/07/14/mission_to_niger


96 posted on 07/11/2006 2:05:38 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Just to be certain, here is just a link. It says it is copyright 1963 by Truman, but it isn't from the Washington Post. At least it's their headache:

http://pvnm.com/hst


97 posted on 07/12/2006 1:33:33 PM PDT by writch (Fiscally conservative, socially progressive, likes guns, and above all, only interested in the facts)
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To: writch

thanks.


98 posted on 07/12/2006 7:44:27 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FairOpinion

bttt


99 posted on 07/12/2006 7:45:25 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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