Marxism and Abortion

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[paltz]

Marxism and Abortion

11/88

A recent article in The Tribune, the official newspaper of the Communist Party of Australia, expounded upon the Marxist view of abortion, adding new understanding to the international debate over the rights of the unborn.

"Human Life and Fetal Images," an essay by Rebecca Albury, appeared in the Australian publication on August 10 of this year. Albury made the following statements about the teachings of Karl Marx and their relationship to the unborn:

* A Marxist believes that personality and human value are imparted by the external and economic environment, not by any inherent spiritual value, or even by biological processes.

* The fetus, according to a Marxist, becomes a person when he is judged as such by "someone of higher wisdom." The humanity of the fetus depends upon how the mother perceives the "social relationship" that exists between them. If the mother desires to keep the baby, then she "fantasizes" it into becoming a human being. But, if she does not want the pregnancy, "it is something else entirely." Her opinion of the fetus thereby denies it of personhood.

* "Biological processes," says Albury, "do not carry automatic moral values as the Right to Life suggests ... Human economic, social, and political relationships create moral values."

* According to Albury, "Material conditions of life change, and so do moral values." This means that, to a Marxist, the unborn baby may be a human being for a time, but may then become depersonified and rendered 'pre-human,' all because his or her mother began to think differently about him or her. She adds: "Certainly, many women experience mixed feelings; the fantasy baby may even appear for a while. Women can tell it goodbye forever."

Dr. John Whitehall, who reported these statements to the Christian Anti-Communism Crusade in his article "Marx and the Unborn Baby," (September 15, 1988), commented on Albury's conclusions by saying, "The inhumanity of communism resides in this arbitrary assessment of human life, which is based on the Marxist valuation of certain social relationships. On this basis, millions have been told 'goodbye' - from the purges of Russia, to the genocide in Cambodia, to the killings in the Philippines, and now to the unborn baby."

[oyez]

Under that system life is mechanical and in fact disposable. The tide of communism started to recede about 1975 and I think the reason was a lot of people finally started to "get the picture".

[IronJack]

Good catch. This sums up the horrors or Marxism, and not just as they relate to abortion. Read this godless drivel and tremble, because there are some powerful people in the world who believe it.

[paltz]

If the mother desires to keep the baby, then she "fantasizes" it into becoming a human being. But, if she does not want the pregnancy, "it is something else entirely." Her opinion of the fetus thereby denies it of personhood.

I find it apalling that this is how liberals justify between who gets terminated and who doesn't...from a "fantasy"

[olderwiser]

How about we say "goodbye" to communists?

[paltz]

Actually, I posted this article to show that all of the liberals' so-called main causes: abortion, environmenatlism, racism, gay marriage, giving everyone nuclear capability, etc... are nothing but empty vessels of marxist concepts.

Always remember Orwell's famous line in Animal Farm: 'All animals are equal' and then it morphed into this one -

'All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. but some animals are more equal than others.'

The liberal causes I mentioned above can easily be about shouting "Equality for all" (even for abortion..ie...why should women be stuck with the burden of kids when men never have to have them?)

[RepoGirl]

Even worse, they're such hypocrites about it, too. (Liberals hypocrites? Never!)

The whole pro-life movement really crystalized for me about 5 years ago when, of all things, I watched one of those brain-fluff entertainment news shows one night. The top story was the uproar faced by a bunch of society women who were facing possible animal cruelty charges because of a new fashion trend.

Seems a bunch of these broads had taken to these uber-special, imported (from Afghanistan!) super virgin wool scarves made from baby goat. All these animal rights nuts were outraged because, in fact, these goats were taken directly from the womb--that's what gave them their extraordinary softness. Scarves from aborted goat fetuses--imagine the outrage!

These women, who were paying up to 30K for one of these extra virgin scarves made from aborted pygmy goats were facing massive fines and PRISON time for animal cruelty.

So, to these nut cases, it's CHOICE to abort a human baby, but don't you DARE abort a goat--because THEN that's cruelty punisble by prison time.

So, women 'fantasize' a fetus into humanity, but these turds don't think twice when they 'fantasize' a goat.

[oyez]

How about we say "goodbye" to communists?

We can't its still too many of these knuckleheads aroud.

[oyez]

We think alike.

[bboop]

Thanks for posting this. Amazing. Truly, all the lib stuff is Marxism/ a state without God. uck. My Social-Worker friend says, when challenged about Marxism ("They have to kill millions of people to make it work.") responds, "Well, they just didn't do it (Marxism) right."

[paltz]

Ping!!

[paltz]

More so is this : The fetus, according to a Marxist, becomes a person when he is judged as such by "someone of higher wisdom."

Higher wisdom?....liberal pro-choice sheep think that's the mother...when in reality it's the state who will ultimately make that choice, not the mother...think China.

[wintertime]

I think the reason was a lot of people finally started to "get the picture".

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Those running and teaching in our government K-12 schools and our private and government universities do NOT see the picture. The are thoroughly contaminated with Marxist thought.

Scratch a liberal and under its thin skin is a socialist. Dig a little deeper and you will find the Marxist nuclear fuel rods driving him.

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[Frank_2001]

Not only in the world in general, but plenty of these creeps are right here in the USA....

[oyez]

the people are anti religious, but they have missionary zeal.

knew that 20 years ago and didn't need Ann Coulter to tell me about it. Thanks, Ann, anyway.

[RepoGirl]

liberal pro-choice sheep think that's the mother...when in reality it's the state who will ultimately make that choice, not the mother...think China.

We are on the same page here. I actually was going to post about that. A few days ago, there was a news story about a woman in China who had fallen to her death while trying to escape a forced abortion.

So, exactly--the mother is sort of the intermediary, but the state is the "highest" form of higher wisdom. So even if the mother "fantasizes" that her wanted child his alive, the state has the final say. Chilling.

And the liberal sheep just don't get it. Well, I guess they don't call them useful idiots for nothing.

I remember, about ten years ago, watching an episode of Politically Incorrect, and some dimwit hollywood actress (The Virgin Connie Swayles from Dragnet, Alexandra Paul) was insisting that China's one child policy should be enacted in America for "the greater good". Strangely, Bill Mahr really hammered her on the whole "choice" issue and she wasn't able to counter.

[IronJack]

the state is the "highest" form of higher wisdom.

All will succumbs to the collective. Anyone who fails to recognize that is an enemy of the state and may rightfully be expunged.

[socialismisinsidious]

"Well, they just didn't do it (Marxism) right."

Your friend's statement is exactly why socialism, Marxism is so dangerous and insidious....she proves your point when she answers with that statement. Why....b/c in order for socialism/Marxism to work the "right" people have to be in charge and have to be kept in charge so freedoms and liberties are trampled upon in order to keep those 'who can do it right' in charge. The left's utopic "ends" is why so many have died at the hands of Marxism.....the ends justifies the means (which of course isn't attainable.)

Doesn't she get that a system that is dependent on the "right" people being is charge is a system doomed for failure precisely b/c of human failings.

At least your friend admits to being a Marxist. I know a liberal who gets angry when you point our her socialism....she denies with statements like "how dare you call my country socialist."
of course the true Marxist understands the left's head in the sand approach to life: "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” Norman Thomas co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union

[cpforlife.org]

The Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal indicted and convicted ten Nazi leaders for "encouraging and compelling abortions," an act which the Tribunal characterized as "a crime against humanity." As with their other crimes against humanity, the Nazis protested that "we were just following orders." Lieutenant General Richard Hildebrandt, the SS (Schutzstaffel) Chief of the RKFVD's Race and Settlement Office in Berlin, stated that "Up to now nobody had the idea to see in this interruption of pregnancy a crime against humanity."
-- Nuremberg Military Tribunals,IV:1081-84. Nuremberg: NO-3512.


In Memory and Identity: Conversations Between Millenniums Pope John Paul calls abortion a “legal extermination” and compares its institution with the
German laws, which declared the Jews non-persons and allowed them to be murdered by the state. He wrote, “It was a legally elected parliament which allowed for the election of Hitler in Germany in the 1930s.”

John Paul wrote that abortion and legalized genocide are both the result of people usurping the “law of God” in the name of democracy. “We have to question the legal regulations that have been decided in the parliaments of present-day democracies.”

“The most direct association which comes to mind is the abortion laws. Parliaments which create and promulgate such laws must be aware that they are transgressing their powers and remain in open conflict with the law of God and the law of nature.”

In 2003, Rabbi Yehuda Levin wrote about a poster he saw in New York city that declared, “STOP The Silent Holocaust — 2,000,000 children destroyed by abortion in Israel.” The poster is part of a campaign sponsored by a Jewish/Israeli group, EFRAT-C.R.I.B, dedicated to stopping abortion in Israel. Source: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/feb/05022306.html