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Drugs or more drugs?
Exposure to THC in adolescence makes rats hungrier for heroin, which they access by pushing a lever.
Rats taking cannabis get taste for heroin news@nature.com's version

The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration at the National Institute on Drug Abuse

Info about drug addiction from the Mayo Clinic

1 posted on 07/08/2006 2:48:59 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Uh huh...And Global Warming will kill us all. Yawn.


2 posted on 07/08/2006 2:54:42 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: neverdem
of people who first puffed weed before age 15, 62% went on to use cocaine and 9% to use heroin. But of those who started smoking pot after age of 20, only 16% moved onto cocaine and 1% to heroin.

I wonder what those numbers would be if "nicotine cigarettes" were substituted for "weed".

3 posted on 07/08/2006 2:55:48 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: neverdem
news flash!!

99.783 % of heroin users were once users of caffeine

4 posted on 07/08/2006 3:00:49 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: neverdem
I'd be more enthusiastic, but I kind of lost interest when they banned all smoking for private businesses and turned their eyes on coffee.

At that point it kind of turned me. It's not about health, public safety or the children. It's about control, pure and simple. Besides, you can't promote a socialist health care scheme where millions are going to die as a result of neglect and corruption if you've got all that dangerous second hand smoke or evil trans fatty acids on the loose.

I'm no longer convinced the war on drugs is valid or justified. The biggest reason is that you just can't kill the demand, there are simply going to be addicts of some thing or another no matter what. OTOH, there may be free market methods to encourage control. I'd love to see more emphasis placed on that.

Still, when people talk about things like crack and crystal meth, well, at that point I have to give up my arguement. I can't think of a valid reason to permit the existence or use of such drugs. There are some things we can't resolve through our type of enforcement unless we take exceptionally harsh measures, and maybe we should consider brutal tactics for scpecial cases. Again, it dimishes my argument, but I can't possibly defend my point in this area. I'm not going to start a big flame war, but I've just lost faith in how the WOD is being handled and it's direction. We may think it's helping us now, but I can see it expanding rapidly out of control under a liberal administration and being used as an alternate method to subvert and destroy individual freedoms under the likes of a person like Hillary or worse.

I don't have a viable alternative, sadly. Just the same suggestion: Drive all socialists on our soil into the seas, and we will be amazed at how quickly our problems go away.

6 posted on 07/08/2006 3:10:34 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: neverdem

What do you say we see how other common things (alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, sugar, chocolate) fare under the same experimental conditions, before we decide what to do about pot? Do any of them lead to increased self-dosing of heroin, and if so, what should we do about them?


10 posted on 07/08/2006 3:23:05 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: neverdem

I would rather smoke a God made plant any day then be hooked on Oxycontin like the almighty Rushbo. Oh I forgot he had a bad back so he's forgiven.


14 posted on 07/08/2006 4:49:26 AM PDT by hodaka
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To: neverdem

I'm not too worried...they only studied Democrats.


18 posted on 07/08/2006 5:59:46 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: neverdem

So where are the heroin addicts? Many millions of people use marijuana every year, why didn't they go on to heroin?


19 posted on 07/08/2006 6:00:48 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: neverdem

27 posted on 07/08/2006 6:38:35 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: neverdem
Did they do the test with alcohol, the real gateway drug, for comparison?
28 posted on 07/08/2006 6:40:43 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: neverdem; Admin Moderator
neverdem, this is the same information you already posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1662183/posts. Why the double post?
29 posted on 07/08/2006 6:49:45 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: All
From another article (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1662183/posts ) about this same research:

Over-stimulation of these receptors through exposure to cannabis may alter these cells so that the brain either feels intensely rewarded by subsequent heroin exposure, or needs an ever-increasing dose to feel the same pleasure — both of which could lead to addiction.

So any drug is a gateway to any other drug, including alcohol and tobacco.

She adds that two other drugs that also stimulate opioid cells, and could therefore also feasibly cause a gateway effect, are nicotine and alcohol. "If we turned back the clock with the knowledge we have now, these two drugs would never have been legalized," Hurd says.

"Gateway" or not, Prohibition was a ringing failure ... as is the war on drugs.

30 posted on 07/08/2006 6:54:01 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: neverdem

This study does not pass the "so what test".


33 posted on 07/08/2006 7:16:41 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Bullsh## doesn't get bridges built.)
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To: neverdem
New research shows that rats exposed to pot's active ingredient at an early age devour more heroin as adults than rats without early exposure.

Boy, and I thought I had troubles keeping my dog off the computer.

I'll check back on this thread later to read the drug worshipers pushing their sacrament of recreational drugs.

47 posted on 07/08/2006 2:21:42 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: neverdem
"new research shows that rats exposed to pot's active ingredient at an early age devour more heroin as adults than rats without early exposure."

And we needed scientific research to tell us this? That Mary Jane is a gateway drug!?

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69 posted on 07/08/2006 7:08:18 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: neverdem

So if you don't smoke pot until you are over the age of 20 your risk of becoming a coke or smack addict are greatly reduced.


71 posted on 07/08/2006 7:23:49 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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87 posted on 07/16/2006 10:56:44 AM PDT by cmsgop ( President Mahmud Ahmadinejad Must Purify Himself in The Waters of Lake Minnetonka)
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