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A Pack of Lies - The surgeon general hypes the hazards of secondhand smoke.
Reason ^ | July 5, 2006 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 07/05/2006 10:41:15 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: mad puppy

Poor baby. The smokers are taxpayers, just like you.

But I wonder your problem, watching fireworks, with the likelihood of smelling them, yet complaining about folks smoking cigarettes.........you've got issues.


21 posted on 07/05/2006 11:38:55 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: neverdem
Memo to Surgeon General: Get back to me on second hand smoke when you officially denounce homosexuality as a health hazard.

How many people die of second-hand AIDS?

22 posted on 07/05/2006 11:44:42 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: neverdem

The DOD has just announced that they are dismantling their nuclear program in favor of the development of the innovative second-hand-smoke bomb.

The new bomb, developed by DARPA in the late 90's, was financed by the revenue generated from the numberous tobacco settlements.

An anonymous Pentagon official stated, "According to all of the data gathered from these lawsuits, second-hand-smoke is the deadliest stuff on the planet. It would be a disservice to national defense not to weaponize it."


23 posted on 07/05/2006 11:45:06 AM PDT by rock_lobsta
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To: rock_lobsta

That is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Good!!!!!!!!!!!


24 posted on 07/05/2006 11:53:17 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Mike Darancette

Beacuse one of the driving forces behind the anti-smoking movement is the drug legalization crowd. All they want to do get cigarette smoking to be percieved as the same as doing drugs, then they will switch from being anti smoking to pro drug legalization.


25 posted on 07/05/2006 11:56:49 AM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (The Amish are the barometers of real freedom in this country.)
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To: neverdem

It amazes me that any of us are even here today. If second hand smoke is so bad then we all should have died years ago when cigarettes weren't filtered and more people were smoking. In fact the only place smoking wasn't allowed was in church, but as soon as the sermon was over with they were lighting up on the steps outside.


26 posted on 07/05/2006 12:00:34 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: mad puppy
After about forty years of smoking, I finally quit five years ago. I have resisted becoming a smoking hypocrit, but I had no idea how bad they smelled. They used to point out to me how bad they smelled, mostly my family, and I would be so dismissive of their point of view. I'm sure I was great fun on a crosscountry trip in the car, as we often travelled together in that manner. Wet cigarettes on my deck from my daughter and her husband,left there after a rain, are putrid. Now, pardon me for griping. My best friend didn't quit when I did and now has lung cancer. Three packs a day to my one. I'm finally accepting what I should have known a long time ago.
27 posted on 07/05/2006 12:02:39 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: Joe 6-pack

What we need are people to start calling 911 every time they see somebody lighting up a cigarette. The police and 911 operators may be annoyed..

You might want to rethink this one - tying up 911 lines will punish not so much the police and 911 operators as it will punish those in need of police and ambulance services. I'd hate to see the death of a heart attack victim on someone's conscience when there might be better ways to deal with the issue.

28 posted on 07/05/2006 12:03:51 PM PDT by retMD
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To: billhilly
Now, pardon me for griping

NO, this whining is annoying. Maybe we should tax whining, then raise the legal age to 90 before you are allowed to whine.

29 posted on 07/05/2006 12:08:44 PM PDT by bfree (Liberalism-the yellow meat)
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To: retMD
tying up 911 lines will punish not so much the police and 911 operators as it will punish those in need of police and ambulance services.

Which is an excellent idea. It might provide the impetus to repeal some of these absurd laws.

30 posted on 07/05/2006 12:22:15 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Joe 6-pack
By insisting that second-hand smoke is a killer, how will they react to someone who uses deadly force against a smoker?

Interesting question.

31 posted on 07/05/2006 12:26:13 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: mad puppy
We moved.

Good. You made the right decision.

32 posted on 07/05/2006 12:29:15 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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To: rock_lobsta

Excellent!


33 posted on 07/05/2006 12:37:52 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge; retMD
"You might want to rethink this one - tying up 911 lines will punish not so much the police and 911 operators as it will punish those in need of police and ambulance services. I'd hate to see the death of a heart attack victim on someone's conscience when there might be better ways to deal with the issue."

I think that before long the operators would soon be hanging up on the smoking calls...which would highlight the fact that even the government acknowledges that second hand smoke is nowhere near the threat they hold it out to be. As for the use of deadly force, according to the antis, surgeon general included, second hand smoke is lethal, it merely acts more slowly than a bullet. According to the banners, my smoking in a public park is every bit as much a hazard as my taking my M1 and cranking off a few rounds, not at anyone or anything in particular, but just shooting at random. According to their logic, my second hand smoke might kill someone, and dead is dead...just like a stray bullet might kill someone. If the smoke is potentially fatal to others, why does it matter how long it takes to kill? If a bullet kills in a fraction of a second, is that any more fatal than poisoning someone to death over the course of a week? a month? a year? decades? Is it any worse than embezzling $1 million all at once, or over the course of years? If smoking puts another person's life at risk, should they not be permitted deadly force to defend themselves? I'd like the liberal-logic answer on this, but doubt they would ever address it. Of course it's an absurd notion, but it's the logical conclusion to the path on which we've embarked.....

34 posted on 07/05/2006 12:39:50 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: mad puppy

"It stinks" is the biggest single complaint from non-smokers who aren't yet on the warpath but I would think that the stench that accompanies a fireworks display might mask the smell just a bit.


35 posted on 07/05/2006 12:45:03 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: neverdem

nump


36 posted on 07/05/2006 12:47:07 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: billhilly

Another one for "stinks."


37 posted on 07/05/2006 12:47:59 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: bfree

I know exactly how you feel. I was an addict myself.


38 posted on 07/05/2006 12:52:55 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: billhilly

And now you are addicted to whining.

You have no idea how anyone feels, you just like to whine.


39 posted on 07/05/2006 12:58:30 PM PDT by bfree (Liberalism-the yellow meat)
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping Gabz! I was going to ping you, but saw that someone beat me to it. So, I sat back and smoked a cigarette and awaited your ping-a-ling! ;*)


40 posted on 07/05/2006 1:03:10 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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