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To: ladyjane

I can believe Indian areas and Indian villages in Eastern Mass, however I also know due to the common attitudes of the day (OK, call it prejudice) in other places in the country at least, say Pennsylvania, the Indians had villages, and the (white) settlers had villages....as housing discrimination was not illegal. In Mass also black slaves were never used extensively (especially by the late 18th Century). Hence I would very much suspect that in the 1770s a rural town in New England, as it is even today, would be 98% white anyway...and people voted as families (hence only the father voting) so by the thinking of the day, no bigotry or discrimation in "the white men of the village" voting, as that's really the only men you would have at that time and place.

Am I advocating such practices today? No, but it wasn't some discriminatory plot by white men...its just life in a village in the 1770s. The tone set by the article just bothered me.

(I also get pissed when professors, so cleverly (they think) give an example counter intuitive, like "A CEO of a fortune 10 corporation spent $5,000,000 remodeling the board room, when SHE went to the board to explain her......." Such methods of implying things are, in my oppinion, attempted manipulation of thinking, and most liberal attitudes, being emotionally based, are caught, not directly taught.)


68 posted on 07/04/2006 8:09:05 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

You got me checking out about voting in Massachusetts during the Revolutionary times.

"Most of the states decree that only white males are eligible to vote, and most limit the vote to those white males who own a certain amount of property. (In other words, if you are a renter you can't vote.) Since only a small minority of white males own enough property to qualify, the vast majority of the population is denied the vote. By some estimates, less than 5% of the population are eligible to vote in the election of 1800.

AND

"1777-1807: Women lose the right to vote in all states.

The states of New York, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and New Jersey which had previously allowed women to vote rescind those rights."

It's amazing that in many places only land owners could vote. Some allowed anyone to vote if they paid any kind of tax in the previous year.

If you look back on our history and try to be objective (impossible) it seems that the war boiled down to the nouveau riche pirates, shippers and businessmen against the old money Loyalists. People like Paul Revere and the other patriots we hear about in Lexington were moneyed landowners, acclaimed silversmiths, and tavern owners - not oppressed, starving dirt farmers.


80 posted on 07/04/2006 11:24:24 AM PDT by ladyjane
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